Tyrion killing Tywin.
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ltholmes95-248-531085 — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:44 PM)
You are! Let's think about it under the context we find ourselves in at this point in the series. Tyrion was about to escape to Essos. People say it was bad of Tyrion to kill Tywin, since he was the best advisor to the king of the Seven Kingdoms. But now Tyrion is advising Dany, who is invading Westeros under huge instability. This is extremely advantageous to him and Khaleesi, even though he didn't know of this at the time. Don't give me sht about him being stupid by killing the best King adviser in Westeros when Tyrion is ESCAPING WESTEROS for "presumably" forever. Why should he care about such bullsht like "not killing the best Hand of the King" Westeros has seen in a good while?
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otter — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 06:11 PM)
So what if killing his father turned out to be a good career move for Tyrion. If he hadn't done it, the Baratheon crown might have survived, with someone sane and competent in charge, and Dany might never have invaded Westeros without Tyrion to hold Mereen together during her absence.
I still say that Tyrion had no moral right to kill his father, no matter the end result.
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CheruthCutestoryII — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 07:41 PM)
the main reason was the because Tywin had banished his first wife Tysha,
No, it was not. Nothing in the television show indicates this is the case.
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CheruthCutestoryII — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 07:40 PM)
Bullsh!t. THere is almost NOTHING I haven't bitched about at this point.
BUT every other murder didn't lead to a lot of innocent death.
Do you deny that Tyrion knew what Cersei was?
Do you deny that Tyrion spend much of season 2 trying to keep her from having power because he knew what she was?
Do you deny that Tyrion knew losing her son would just make her crazier?
If not then you can't deny that murdering the ONE check on Cersei's power was deeply immoral and wrong.
Tywin was the only thing keeping Cersei from tyranny. Tyrion knew that. He removed him based on his own personal grudges. Kingdom beep be damned.
In the books, this is totally understandable. No human being can expect to just process what Tywin did to Tysha and Tyrion. It's evil beyond human comprehension.
In the show, he chose trial by combat, TYwin didn't plan to have him executed, he knew Shae had betrayed him long before (and that was Cersei's doing), he had long broken up with her and had no right to her staying sexually loyal to him.
He has every right to his anger but destroying the entire kingdom for it is completely unjustifiable in the show.
Yes, I think a murder that lead to Cersei murdering the TYrells and many others is worse than others. THat is something Tyrion could easily predict would happen. It wasn't out of his control. He knew who Cersei was.
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ltholmes95-248-531085 — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:35 PM)
Again, I'm not saying it wasn't the best decision. I'm just saying that, narratively, it wasn't pointless and Tyrion had a personal reason for killing both Shae and Tywin. How about all you idiots understand my point before you act like beep about it.
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Leo_ofRedKeep — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:37 PM)
I don't recall anyone saying Tyrion killing Tywin was "pointless".
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myselfandi — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:39 PM)
It wasn't pointless.
Tyrion was an abused child who committed patricide after being sent over the tipping edge at evidence that the father who had abused him all along had encouraged his lover to testify against him. In a murder trial btw in which said abused child would be sentenced to die.
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Rhaegal76 — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 07:12 PM)
Exactly..I think it was completely justified. He'd been abused by his father his entire life. His father got the love of his life to testify against him. He was going to be found guilty of murder. Tywin SAID he wouldn't have him killed but I say that's BS. In Tyrion's eyes he would have been killed. Then he finds his love in his fathers bed. Too too much to deal with.
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Nightman_Trumpeth — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:45 PM)
Tyrion killing Tywin was justified in the books, not so much in the show. As usual, the show liked to keep the characters doing the same things they do in the books, but eliminate their motivations for absolutely no fooking reason.
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purple_lemon — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 09:18 PM)
Tywin had it coming in spades and Tyrion was finished in Westeros whether he killed Tywin or not. So why not murder dear old Dad? In Sandor's words at least Tyrion would have one happy memory
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