Is GOT misogynistic?
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D_Stormborn — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 03:24 PM)
Game of Thrones is deeply rooted in history, such as but not limited to the War of Roses with Yorks vs Lancasters (Starks vs Lannisters) where Dany clearly is Henry Tudor. Plus we have historical figures such as George Plantagenet (Theon), Edward of Westminster (Joffrey), as well as Zoroastrianism (Lord of Light) and Hadrians
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"Art is magic delivered from the lie of being truth"
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jsagotsky-1 — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 12:10 AM)
There are more strong female characters, both good and bad, than any other show on television,
I think the misogynistic elements come from HBO, not GRRM. They threw in a lot of naked women, especially in the early seasons, that had not plot purpose. Like a scene of prostitute training. And so on.
I think there is no question that HBO likes showing nudity, but I bet it's ccld blooded, for ratings. My understanding of misogynistic would be that they always show women as weak, or evil, and they certainly don't do that.
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Tommen_Saperstein — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 07:26 AM)
Yes and no, mostly no.
It was more true of seasons 1-2 than it is now.Live Deliciously!
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RomaVictorrrr — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 09:08 AM)
Sure
Some titillating misogyny that I won't complain about
Some misogyny that fits the medieval times the show and book is set it
And some seeming misogyny only because women are getting hurt, which makes the stories even more satisfying when the women start to win or get justice -
CharlesTheBold — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 06:34 AM)
It depends on how you define "misogynistic". The definition I've heard is that it insults the ethics or intelligence of women as a group. The nudity in GOT doesn't really do that. Margery came across as clever even when she didn't have much clothes on. Danny is the only throne claimant who tends to worry about the duties of a ruler. If they were treated merely as sex objects, THAT would be misogynistic.
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CharlesTheBold — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 12:34 PM)
If they were the only women in the story it would have been misogynistic. But they were offset by positive women like Caitlyn and Danny. As I said, it depends on how you define "misogynistic".
And at least it was an unusual solution to how to get viewers to sit still to expository speeches. A lot better than that dancing hunchback in PRISONER OF AZKABAN during Fudge's speech. -
Tommen_Saperstein — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 01:34 PM)
As I said, it depends on how you define "misogynistic".
Sexually objectifying women needlessly for cheap titillation is misogynistic. It denigrates women as products to be consumed. All those women in the earlier brothel sequences were nothing more than eye candy for adolescent male viewers, and Dany was subjected to some of that treatment as well.
Thankfully they don't do that as much anymore, and they've since better equalized the power dynamics in the sex scenes too, like when Dany beds Daario or when Tyene teases Bronn in the jail cell. And that one sex scene in Season 3 with Talisa and Robb is really beautiful.Live Deliciously!
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