My personal theory is that it's because Americans are so caught up in partisanship and propaganda, unlike us level-heade
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Royal_Yermom — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 02:25 PM)
Incorrect, I didn't cite any right wing site, you can go on Google and bring up tons of different sites. And yes, Rob debunked it by saying "nuh-uh." I suppose that's enough for simple Europeans.
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realkillerthing — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 10:12 AM)
I dont like the collective term "Europeans". I as a Scandinavian refuse to be assosiated with those damn Romanian and Bulgarian gypsies.
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bluerisk — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 11:28 AM)
Are they? Brexit, Euro-crisis, Refugee-crisis.
You know that were uprises in France (=> banlieues) and the UK some years ago, and that it is more likely that things will get worsemaybe there will be even riots in German cities soon.
We can hardly master our own continent.
Ich bin kein ausgeklgelt Buch, ich bin ein Mensch mit seinem Widerspruch.
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FutureKingsII — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 03:54 PM)
Are they? Brexit, Euro-crisis, Refugee-crisis.
Please remain on topic
You know that were uprises in France (=> banlieues) and the UK some years ago,
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FutureKingsII — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 04:41 PM)
they know how better to raise another couples child or what they should do instead of what they are doing right or wrong when making a decision
Thisdoesn't really follow. Europeans have a wealth of information about America to go off of, a person looking at a couple's child does not.
In fact, that pretty much sums up liberals in general.
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FutureKingsII — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 04:47 AM)
who also thinks she has a wealth of information on how to do something better for the family
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Unshaken_Unstirred — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 05:09 AM)
All of the information at your disposal isn't equal to first hand experience. As someone who is an American, but not of the Murican stock, it's incredibly annoying to talk to a European who treats America as a monolithic block. Even first hand, understanding the intricacy of the interplay between different cultures in America when looking at policy implications is a monumental task.
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FutureKingsII — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 05:15 AM)
All of the information at your disposal isn't equal to first hand experience.
Actually, first hand experience is probably not very useful at all. You can only ever truly experience one tiny piece of any country by living there anyway, and anecdotal information is largely useless when looking at a whole country.
t's incredibly annoying to talk to a European who treats America as a monolithic block.
I don't really see how that's relevant here.
understanding the intricacy of the interplay between different cultures in America when looking at policy implications is a monumental task.
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Unshaken_Unstirred — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 05:33 AM)
Actually, first hand experience is probably not very useful at all. You can only ever truly experience one tiny piece of any country by living there anyway, and anecdotal information is largely useless when looking at a whole country.
If you stay isolated in your own little area, sure. If you travel, you can experience a wide scope.
I don't really see how that's relevant here.
It's relevant because you claim to understand this country better than we do. You don't really know anything about it. You may know our foreign policies, but you can't understand them without getting to their root causes.
I don't really see how living there would make any difference.
Right, and that's why you don't understand this country. Experience Seattle, NYC, Houston, Little Rock, Boston, Detroit, Columbus, and you'd understand that if they were acting independently, they'd have drastically different policies. When you understand where all the different cultures are coming from, you may start to see that American government is a battleground of different cultures and philosophies.
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FutureKingsII — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 05:42 AM)
If you stay isolated in your own little area, sure. If you travel, you can experience a wide scope.
So in other words, a European that has made regular trips to America is more qualified than many Americans who don't travel.
but you can't understand them without getting to their root causes.
You can't imagine that someone could have studied American history and American domestic policy? It's readily available all over the web, not to mention libraries. It's studied in colleges here. I don't think you really thought this through.
Experience Seattle, NYC, Houston, Little Rock, Boston, Detroit, Columbus, and you'd understand that if they were acting independently,
Well duh. That it isn't my point. On the macro level that is irrelevant, there are still broad trends of behavior.
you may start to see that American government is a battleground of different cultures and philosophies.
Uh yeah, like almost every single country on the planet.