Gay bashers: explain your reasoning.
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manfromearth — 13 years ago(January 16, 2013 01:12 AM)
sorry i can't agree with you, but you do have some sensible points out there. Appreciated.
But times have changed and we live in a very different world now. Disease or natural orientation, homsexuality has become an acceptable part of our society and we at least need to accept and tolerate it, if not promote. -
hadmatter — 15 years ago(March 04, 2011 01:28 PM)
Anybody who shouts too loud about being discriminated against gets on my nerves, and some homosexuals come into that category.
That is true. It is also irrelevant. People who are discriminated against have the RIGHT to complain about it. In fact, EVERYONE does! That's why Christians (who are firmly in the majority) have the RIGHT to constantly complain about how gay people are infringing on their religious freedom. It's a complete LIE of course, but they have the RIGHT to complain about it anyway.
Some wont stop shouting until they have MORE rights than straight people
Really. Please give one example of when this has ever happened.
And all that goes to show how ignorant some of them are, because plenty of people in the "majority" also suffer in many ways, but don't have anybody willing to stand up for them because there isn't any movement they can attach themselves to.
Right. But in order to write this sentence, you have had to change the topic from "discrimination" to "suffering". EVERYBODY suffers. Nothing in our constitution promises that life will be easy. However, we as citizens are SUPPOSED to be able expect EQUALITY. The "majority" or the 'group in power' may suffer, but not from discrimination.
But if people continually antagonize others by demanding more and more because of their skewered view of fairness, then they deserve to be get some stick.
So, at what point in the process of fighting for equal rights do you think the homos deserve to get "the stick"? Is marriage equality a bashable offense to you? Are adoption rights bashable? Inheritance rights?
Sometimes you have to accept also that the majority aren't all that comfortable with the type of things certain minorities want to do.
Yeah, but so what? You don't get to withhold legal rights because you object to my sexual practices. They are none of your damn business.
I am the sod-off shotgun. -
Wesyeed — 15 years ago(March 13, 2011 04:36 PM)
I suppose gays are a genetic abnormality similar to hermaphrodites and have an affinity for their own gender etc. For that reason, I have no "hatred" towards them, except in the sense that they like many minority groups abuse their status and play the victim too often, furthermore there's a lot of over exposure to the gay rights movement as if it's such a hugely important subject as world wide poverty, serious disasters etc. It simply isn't. I agree that some people feel the need to make a mountain out of a mole hill, pardon the cliche.
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chatanuga — 15 years ago(March 16, 2011 01:30 PM)
"Again, why is it that people like you, who love to blame victims for their negative attitude toward being victimized, always refuse to elaborate on your accusations? Please give an example of how us gays "abuse our status". How often should we be allowed to complain about being victimized? Is it okay to complain when we are attacked in the streets and beaten by gangs of ass holes who claim to be Christian? Is it okay to complain when the state seized our home and property when our partner of forty years passes away, because the state refuses to recognize the validity of our partnership? When do you think it would be all right to complain about systematized abuse that leads gay teenagers to have among the highest suicide rates in the world?"
Don't forget about discrimination in the workplace. At my last job, a coworker who later became my manager assumed I was gay began sexually harassing me, and nothing was ever done about it. At the job before that, a coworker found my Yahoo profile, felt threatened that I was gay, and sent my profile to the president of the company along with false claims that I'd come onto him. I was written up for sexual harassment, even though I'd done nothing wrong, and later fired on false claims of poor job performance. -
WileyDairyGnome — 14 years ago(June 07, 2011 05:15 PM)
I'm sorrybut if you are suffering ALONE, and you are isolated and you feel ignored, what do you expect us to do? Throw you a parade? I have been there before, it's called depression. I'm guessing you have no clue what it's like to be discriminated against because of who you are (maybe you do, I'm just making an assumption). I don't know ONE gay person who believes that they deserve any more than a straight person. First of all, there are too many countries that make gays face a penalty simply for, well, being gay. If they engage in any sexual content with someone of the same sex, they could possibly face the death penalty (or be stoned to death by some angry civilians). This happens in places like Jamaica and too many African countries. Is it unfair that I find this sick and wrong? Women are raped in South Africa (and various other countries) for being lesbians, because their families believe that the rape will "cure" them. So tell me, what do you want us to do about the fact that you feel alone and isolated? Maybe you weren't referring to yourself, but I can only assume. Most gay people who are in their 50s and 60s now once felt completely alone because no one was doing sht for them. They felt alone and confused. If no one did a damn thing about that, if not one person fought for equal rights for gays, or blacks, or jews where the hell would we be now? I feel like you're talking out of your as. Can you state some of the rights that gay people want, that would provide them with more rights than we straight people have? I've never even heard of such rights.
Gays haven't always had a movement to attach themselves to. I don't know anyone in the majority who is suffering, and who has absolutely NO WHERE to turn. There are support groups for just about everything these days. Yes, I have felt completely alone. I suffer from depression and I've had thoughts of suicide. Boo hoo. I'm allowed to get married if I choose to, I can walk down the street holding a man's hand and not have to worry about someone giving me a dirty look, and my family accepts me for who I am. I'm not gay, and I respect the fact that some people are, and that those people deserve to have the same rights that we do.
I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been