I would really love an answer from our resident Christians…
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hadmatter — 15 years ago(August 16, 2010 03:38 PM)
Unless you have studied Canon Law as I have Then I suggest that you can keep quiet about matters that do not concern you, if you are NOT ROMAN CATHOLIC!
Then tell the stupid roman catholics to keep their stupid churchy fingers out of my business.
I am very tired of people spouting info. about a dogma that they DO NOT KNOW!!!
Fascinating. I feel the same way about you holier-than-thou god types shooting your mouths off about homosexuality.
There are VERY strict lines drawn about annulment and Roman Catholics take this very seriously. So you can put away your $ signs.
Your churches are made of gold and jewels. Put away your own $ signs first, ass hole.
I WILL NOT tollerate bigotry against Roman Catholics NO matter what form they may be!!
Yeah? What are you going to do about it? Damn me?
Yes, everyone Catholic Bashing The Acceptable prejudice!
Oh, poor poor you. It must be so challenging to be in the majority.
I am the sod-off shotgun. -
vanguard59 — 15 years ago(August 16, 2010 11:27 PM)
08/17/10
Just WHAT EXACTLY is YOUR BUSINESS!
ALL of the three main religions including Orthodox Judiaism and ISLAM have dim views on homosexuality.
I am not an Iman nor a Rabbi, so study their dogma and read the Holy Qaran (look it up), and you will see what I Mean!
To the line about gold and jewels, sounds like I am dealing with a brain washed WASP! Tell me as the Queen is the head of the Anglican Church then how much of her revenue has she donated to help the poor?? What British Monarch has ever done so. This in a country where they HUNG an 11 yr. old girl for stealing a loaf of bread (19th Century) Yeah sure old Queen Vicky really cared about the little people.
I can believe that you would rely on that nonsense, as it is someone else's bilge. Do you or more importantly can you, have an origional thought. When you actually find one then write back.
I do not damn because that is the Lord's domain to judge everyone NO matter what are their sins and to get off this, your blab was about Roman Catholics and annullment NOT on homosexuality, remember, do not go for the cheap jab; otherwise you are not worthy of my time!
And Roman Catholics are in the minority, (will you learn to do some research) instead of shooting off your "pie hole" notice I did not call you an ass hole as you did me. TACKY TACKY and a cheap shot!
Oh by the way there is the antidefamation league and the Catholic league.
What is exactly a sod-off shotgun? Like I really care!! REMEMBER read theHOLY Qaran first and the Tanakh. DO not waste my time!! -
hadmatter — 15 years ago(August 18, 2010 12:06 PM)
Just WHAT EXACTLY is YOUR BUSINESS!
ALL of the three main religions including Orthodox Judiaism and ISLAM have dim views on homosexuality.
I am not an Iman nor a Rabbi, so study their dogma and read the Holy Qaran (look it up), and you will see what I Mean!
I already know. And guess what? Don't care. It matters not one bit whether your religion or any other has a "dim view" of homosexuality. MY SEXUALITY IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS unless WE ARE HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER.
Which, I guarantee, we are not.
To the line about gold and jewels, sounds like I am dealing with a brain washed WASP!
Or anybody that has ever seen a church, dumbass. You people are disgusting.
Tell me as the Queen is the head of the Anglican Church then how much of her revenue has she donated to help the poor?? What British Monarch has ever done so. This in a country where they HUNG an 11 yr. old girl for stealing a loaf of bread (19th Century) Yeah sure old Queen Vicky really cared about the little people.
And you think that trying to deflect attention onto somebody else's church is going to make me forget how disgusting you are?
I can believe that you would rely on that nonsense, as it is someone else's bilge.
What "nonsense"? Oh, you must mean
what I have seen with my own eyes
.
I do not damn because that is the Lord's domain to judge everyone NO matter what are their sins and to get off this, your blab was about Roman Catholics and annullment NOT on homosexuality, remember, do not go for the cheap jab; otherwise you are not worthy of my time!
No, it was about homosexuality. And I am not striving to be "worthy" of you in any way. But when you came on here whining about the poor defenseless (gigantic powerful and made-of-solid-gold) Roman Catholic Church, I had to comment.
And Roman Catholics are in the minority, (will you learn to do some research) instead of shooting off your "pie hole" notice I did not call you an ass hole as you did me. TACKY TACKY and a cheap shot!
Waah waah waah. The Catholic church is the largest religious body in the word. Christianity in general accounts for about a third of the ENTIRE POPULATION OF EARTH. You are
not
a minority. You people can fracture yourselves into five thousand denominations and cry "discrimination!" all you want, but it doesn't change the truth. You're huge, powerful, and in charge.
Not calling me an ass hole doesn't make you better than me,
or
make you less of an ass hole. Cheap shot, perhaps, but still true.
Oh by the way there is the antidefamation league and the Catholic league.
So what? Are you going to go tell on me for thinking your church and everyone who belongs to it are hypocritical monsters? Go ahead!
What is exactly a sod-off shotgun?
Go find yourself a working brain and a sense of humor. Maybe you can figure it out by yourself.
REMEMBER read theHOLY Qaran first and the Tanakh.
I've read the Qu'Ran. What's your point? Oh right, you don't have one, except to try to justify your own religion's sweeping hatred by comparing it to the sweeping hatred of other religions. But guess what? Three people beating up a defenseless gay guy in an alley are
not
more justified than one person beating up a defenseless gay guy in an alley.
I am the sod-off shotgun. -
Banjaxed08 — 15 years ago(August 29, 2010 07:05 PM)
Well, I am a Roman Catholic and I was raised to have nothing but respect and love for all people, regardless of their race, religion, or sexual orientation. I went to an all girls Catholic high school, the only one in my state, and I will attest that not even once were gay people bashed. Being gay was never taught to be a sin. The only thing concerning homosexuals that was ever labeled a sin was sex- and simply because gay sex is not life giving, and therefore premarital- we were taught that it is no more a sin than premarital sex And honestly, who on this earth, gay or straight, has NOT participated in a form of premarital sex?
I will admit that I did not read all of the arguing and negative feedback on this thread because I honestly did not care to. At the end of the day, not one person on this Earth knows if the Bible is the 100% accurate word of God (so for all of my evangelical friends out there, do not throw Bible quotes at me. I am not looking for a debate). People are not perfect, and I'm sure that there was some word-twisting going on to better fit whatever agenda was going on at the time The God I was raised to believe in is one of love, and I do not believe that He would condemn anyone for being homosexual- as we are led to believe that God creates all of us in his image- or that gay marriage is as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I'm pretty sure that at this point, God would rather see two gay people get married and honor the sacrament, rather than two heterosexual people get married and then divorce six months later, simply because they do not take it seriously, and because they take the right for granted.
Also, there is this separation of church and state thing that our country was founded upon
Anyway, I hope this has given a glimor of hope to some people who fear that all Christians are hateful, hypocritical people. -
BoogieKnight — 15 years ago(November 05, 2010 02:00 AM)
"Homosexual feelings are not a sin. Its homosexuals acts that are sinful. Let's understand that right now."
Well it depends on whether those "homosexual feelings" involve lust. How can a homo or hetero feeling that's sexual not involve lust?
And of course, lust outside of [heterosexual] marriage is a terrible horrible terrible horrible thing that one should feel terribly horribly guilty about.
Let's also understand that this is called passive aggressive behavior.
"You're saying that I'm supposed to go through life and never have any kind of relationship?"
Yeah. If you can't try harder and become heterosexual, it's really for your own good.
There are people who can actually say this and not be kidding. -
Emmywins305 — 12 years ago(November 09, 2013 09:35 PM)
Homosexual feelings are not a sin.
Its homosexuals acts that are sinful.
Let's understand that right now.
Potassium Man, you said in another thread that you find girl on girl action hot. Well that's just hypocritical. You're implying that it's okay for two girls to go at it with each other because you're into that but two men can't do the same?
And where did you get your source anyway? The BIBLE? The Bible also said it's a sin to wear a fabric of two different fibers (like polyester), touch pigskin (like football), and eat shellfish. Are THOSE sins, too? Grow up.
It's exactly attitudes like yours that make people turn against Christianity. As if straight people don't have pre-marital sex or get divorces. Where are the Christians judging them for their "sin" then? Hypocrites. -
Speed-the-plow — 14 years ago(September 07, 2011 06:15 PM)
I'm a Christian and I agree 100%. And as a gay man, that is the reason I remain a Christian. The anti-gay beep from Christians is just that: beep
To my knowledge, Jesus never spoke against homosexuality. There is evidence that the early Christians homosexually married with the blessings of the Church.
Hell, Jesus may have been a homosexual. He never married, surrounded Himself with men, and told people to hate their families, in so many words. -
philoakey — 14 years ago(April 02, 2012 08:49 AM)
I have a theory that a random guy came onto Lukeand he got offended so decided to make homosexuality an abomination. It is a man made book after all.
If all else fails you should join the Quakersthey love the gays.