Propaganda!
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norbi_u — 15 years ago(April 13, 2010 08:29 AM)
I do live somewhere else. And I'm not saying that his parents are using him for wealth and fame. His country is using him to fool people like you into believing that this war is the right thing.
That is pure subconscious propaganda.
I respect the soldiers for what they do, but I hate your government for starting this unnecessary war and keeping it alive for so long. -
redwingjs — 15 years ago(April 14, 2010 08:04 PM)
And just what about this movie tries to fool people into thinking that the current war is the right thing? Please cite specific scenes or lines that promote the war.
I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.
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jpo58 — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 07:20 AM)
I know it is close to 7 years after you posted this, but having seen this movie just last night, I cannot understand how anyone can turn this into a "pro-war message". If anything, after seeing the faces of Kevin Bacon's character and Chance's family, it is more of an anti-war message if anything. But it was done with great respect to the people who serve.
You need to open your mind more as to what you are watching. -
pepeds2002 — 16 years ago(January 17, 2010 06:18 PM)
I agree that this movie has very little interesting content, and feels strongly as propaganda. The only character that is developed at all is Lt.Col. Mike Strobl (but not very deeply either), all the rest of the characters are absolutely uni-dimensional. There are too many narrative deficiencies, and it really never caught my attention.
I understand that for the people that has family involved directly in this war it could have been a very touching subject (by far the demographic group that gives this movie the highest rankings are women older than 45). Nevertheless, by no standards does that make it a good movie.
As respectful as you might feel for the families of the marines killed in action, it's very difficult to ignore the obvious bias on the uni-dimensionality of all characters, and the blatant emotional manipulative intention of the ubiquitous slow-paced soundtrack. -
redwingjs — 16 years ago(January 17, 2010 06:27 PM)
If those people were made up, you'd have a case, but they're not, so you don't.
I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.
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maritze — 16 years ago(January 20, 2010 07:42 PM)
Redwingjs- Are you kidding? They are portrayed by actors, how are they not 'made up'?
Anyway, I agree with the OP. (Though he might have been a bit more forthcoming with reasons to support his statement.) I also agree that it is truly tragic that a young man lost his life.
I was moved (read: teary eyed) by many scenes in the film, but after watching it I was struck with the strange mindset the film portrayed. It seemed to me that only a nation that has a very large proportion of people with such a deeply ingrained Militaristic attitude as America could produce and admire such a simple and one dimensional film such. Movies like Valley of Elah take a much more confronting and profound statements.
Also, I am deeply puzzled by the idea that it is the noblest thing one can do to die for your country. Especially if your country is far from blameless in the bigger political picture. The fact that this soldier died in a country that viewed him as an invader is not very honorable or noble in my book. -
The_Proprietor — 14 years ago(October 06, 2011 12:30 PM)
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maritze
Also, I am deeply puzzled by the idea that it is the noblest thing one can do to die for your country. Especially if your country is far from blameless in the bigger political picture. The fact that this soldier died in a country that viewed him as an invader is not very honorable or noble in my book.
Hang on, hang on. In WWII when allied servicemen crossed into Nazi Germany to stop a fascist and despotic regime, they were technically 'invaders' too. Would you say those who died and made the ultimate sacrifice weren't very honourable and noble?
If impersonating a Police Officer is an offence, shouldn't actors be imprisoned? -
C-Cat — 16 years ago(January 30, 2010 10:43 PM)
You and the original poster seem to think that this story was ment to "entertain" you, in which case you should have changed the channel and looked for something more to your taste. This was one of the most moving stories I have ever seen in my life. My son just returned from his second tour in Afghanistan and I served in the Navy for 20 years, so perhaps it impacted me to a higher degree than many others, but If my son had still been deployed overseas when I saw this, I wouldn't have been able to stick it out until the end.
If you can't fix it, fix it so nobody else can either! -
olaf110 — 16 years ago(February 18, 2010 11:52 AM)
kitschy piece of propaganda? shame on you. imagine you would live elsewhere. lets say a country like iran or china. you would feel the chains sooner or later. you would feel what it is to live unfree.or to dont have the right to speak free.
soldiers in the free world fight for your freedom . even for you freedom of stupid speech. for the freedom to call this movie "kitschy propaganda" . at least you should honor their sacrifice. -
rhklwk-1 — 16 years ago(March 07, 2010 03:17 PM)
I am truly astonished by this remark.
This movie takes no position on whether the United States should be in Iraq.
This movie (1) illustrates the reverence with which our slain servicemen and women are treated (2) affirms the goodness that is in (most) people and (3) helps the escort officer answer questions about himself.
It is an uplifting movie.
The cynicism reflected in this remark reflects, I fear, an education at the hands of the liberal elite that have dominated public education for decades.
If this remark is truly genuine, I feel sorry for this gentleman. To be trapped in this kind of thinking must bring no joy to his life. -
junmengo — 15 years ago(May 16, 2010 10:55 AM)
the greatest thing about this movie, is that people gonna see and some will say its a military advertising, other people will say its anti-war propaganda, thats because is apolitical its a story about people and their lifes and the way someone can touch other people lifes even without knowing, if you see any political message in this movie is because you are incapable of having an unbias opinion about anything, one way or another
thats the beauty of this movie