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    jacowium — 16 years ago(October 18, 2009 02:19 PM)

    Exactly! I often receive replies to my posts evidently meant for someone else. And when I kindly ask those persons to post their replies to the intended persons, so that those persons can actually get to read what's meant for their eyes, I get showered in abuse and insults! Almost like the little sarcastic note posted above here, just nastier.
    The lack of logic displayed by persons who are also able to use a computer is, well, just not logical.

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      horton-2 — 16 years ago(June 19, 2009 08:29 PM)

      Yet another person who's rating a movie based purely on his idea that it's about the US military and the war and nothing else. Ignorant sheetheads like that piss me off.
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        wildfire160 — 16 years ago(June 22, 2009 11:45 PM)

        give me a break
        you know i hear this all the time WHY did we go there
        because we thought they had WMD and were prepared to use them,turns out they probably didnt have any.. but you know what weather Saddam did or didnt have WMD is irrelevent.wanna know why???
        because if he didnt have them there was no reason to refuse the weapon inspectors access,by refusing them he gave everyone the impression that he had them which gives you the reason for the war which with hindsight makes Saddam Hussein one of the biggest idiots to ever walk this Earth

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          andy_mckie — 16 years ago(June 26, 2009 10:12 AM)

          Nothing saddam said or did gives america a divine right to wage war on him, some of you americans are so stupid its funny. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 in fact he was an arch enemy of osama bin laden, the only terror training camps bin laden had in iraq were in the northern part controlled by America and their kurdish friends.
          Saddam said no to the inspectors to show his people he isnt a coward, standing up to the bullying by america and the UK. They knew he had no weapons of mass destruction because they never sold him any. Effing idiots.

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            nickm2 — 16 years ago(June 27, 2009 11:58 AM)

            "Nothing saddam said or did gives america a divine right to wage war on him, some of you americans are so stupid its funny. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 in fact he was an arch enemy of osama bin laden,"
            REALLY? Didn't ONE of the guys who planned the FIRST World Trade Center bombing have 'fake' Iraqi Passport? Didn't he RUN to Iraq after the bombing? Didn't THIS guy, who came into the country with assistance of Iraq, hid out in Iraq after the bombing also part of AQ & was an associate of OBL? Kind of a funny way to be 'arch enemies'; NOT only that but Saddam ALSO provided monetary support for the suicide bombers of Hamas==ANOTHER ally organization of OBLYou MUST familiarize yourself with the old Klingon proverb: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend";
            And then there's that little issue of being in State of low intensity war with Iraq thru the 1990sas for WMD, he made that sarin & mustard all by himselfand he used it tooSOME folks even say he managed to use some of it in 1991 in SMALL quantities.
            So DO do your homework before before you 'spout', Honorable Mr. Galloway.
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              mvgodinho — 16 years ago(June 30, 2009 09:02 PM)

              Just when I think that americans may not be that stupid and manipulated from the media, I see a movie like this, clearly an army propaganda (not entering the merit of the poor soldier that died), and listen to the comments about how righteous are the "peace and freedom keepers". My God, don't you see that all your war games are based strictely on financial and commercial purposes?
              Sadam was a blood dictator? Mugabe and Dada were much worse! He - allegedly - had WMD? Kim Jong-il has them and rub them against your faces every chance he has! Why don't you just declare war on these wackos? Because they're not relevant, in financial and commercial ways.
              America and most americans lives a redundant lie and are proud for it, as this movie shows in a totally unrealistic way. This kind of blind pride will be the ruin of the Empire, you'll see
              And before anyone call's me a terrorist or criticise my english, I'm from Brazil, a completely neutral country, and this is not my first language.

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                nickm2 — 16 years ago(June 30, 2009 10:38 PM)

                We in a low intensity shooting war with Mugabe? With Amin? As for NK, they're always in a state of perpetual national collapse.OF COURSE if YOU think something should be done about Kim, well feel free to suit up & gocrossing that minefield in the DMZ should make for an interesting experience.as for me, I feel that IF the NK have nukes & a delivery system, I will console myself with the irony that they can hit San Francisco
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                  redwingjs — 16 years ago(July 06, 2009 01:13 AM)

                  Just when I think that americans may not be that stupid and manipulated from the media, I see a movie like this, clearly an army propaganda (not entering the merit of the poor soldier that died), and listen to the comments about how righteous are the "peace and freedom keepers". My God, don't you see that all your war games are based strictely on financial and commercial purposes?
                  Army propaganda? That was very nice of the Army to develop propaganda for the US Marine Corps. Why are you politicizing a film that went to great lengths to be apolitical? If this movie had been about a soldier/Marine who dies in WWII, you wouldn't be making any comments about it, but because this Marine died in Oraq, it's propaganda.
                  Curious. How is it propaganda? Propaganda is media designed to manipulate people's opinions in favor of what an organization want to accomplish. How is this movie manipulating the way people are thinking about the war? Fact is, you can't come up with any ways that this movie is propaganda because it is not.
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                    Luny2010 — 16 years ago(July 06, 2009 02:03 PM)

                    NM, are you serious: "old Klingon proverb"? "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is found both in ancient Arabia and ancient China, and that theory has been used throughout history. I suggest you turn off the TV and pick up a history book - you'll be pleasantly surprised to find that most writers, including those of "Star Trek" and "300" get their inspiration - and famous proverbs and sayings - from history.
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                      nickm2 — 16 years ago(July 06, 2009 03:51 PM)

                      "NM, are you serious: "old Klingon proverb"? "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
                      Just being Tongue in cheek, Luny.THAT old proverb is one of the best known that ones that DOESN'T come on a fortune cookie
                      NM

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                        LusitanWanderer — 16 years ago(July 18, 2009 04:00 PM)

                        Personally, I think this movie could have been better directed. For people who were not born in USA, like myself, I feel the meaning of the movie was so much smaller compared to what I think USA-citizens might be feeling.
                        However I liked Kevin Bacon's role especially the part when they opened the coffin.
                        Hope this war ends soon, so that the future of your country (the young and brave soldiers) might really start to defend their own and serve you the way they (and you) deserve and not in the name of political/economical interests.
                        May they all return to their homes.
                        youngsters dont make mistakes, they try new things n besides, brains r overrated!

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                          barryfleckmann — 16 years ago(July 19, 2009 05:18 AM)

                          Saddam Hussein boasted to his would-be, potential foes in the Arab community (Iran) that he HAD Weapons of Mass Destruction to keep THEM at bay. After all, they knew he gassed his OWN people (the Kurds) before. Well, George Bush simply called his bluff! Saddam was stuck between a rock and a hard place. He couldn't reveal to his enemies in the region that he really DIDN'T have WMD's, because then he risked attack by them. Hussein gambled that the U.S. wouldn't invade his country. HE LOST!!! To my way of thinking, Saddam Hussein and his two sons, Uday and Qusay, WERE human Weapons of Mass Destruction, and the whole world is better off now that they're decomposing in the ground. The grandest sight I ever beheld was seeing Saddam standing on the scaffold, with the noose around his neck. WHOOSH!!! Where'd he go? To Hell, baby, to Hell!!!
                          "You want the truth? You can't HANDLE the truth!" Jack Nicholson, "A Few Good Men."

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                            graeshadowe-24-676603 — 13 years ago(December 05, 2012 03:50 PM)

                            VERY WELL SAID, WILDFIRE.
                            Twelve years of piddling around with UN inspectors, God only knows where all those WMD's were squirreled away.
                            Somehow, this keeps getting DRRRRAAAAAGGGEEEDDD up, "Where are the WMD's?" Somehow I don't think we would have put as much lives, time, energy, and money into a war on a complete fabrication.

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                              CGSailor — 16 years ago(July 22, 2009 03:17 PM)

                              Conservatives: Praise the Military men and women which this Movie Honors. and does not bring Politics into it.
                              Liberals: Use any excuse to spew their views and politics, Even on a Movie which LEAVES POLITICS OUT OF IT.
                              Way to go Liberal
                              Take your crap elsewhere.
                              I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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                                Son_of_Elvis — 16 years ago(September 03, 2009 07:06 PM)

                                'Saddam Hussein boasted to his would-be, potential foes in the Arab community (Iran) that he HAD Weapons of Mass Destruction to keep THEM at bay. After all, they knew he gassed his OWN people (the Kurds) before. Well, George Bush simply called his bluff! Saddam was stuck between a rock and a hard place. He couldn't reveal to his enemies in the region that he really DIDN'T have WMD's, because then he risked attack by them. Hussein gambled that the U.S. wouldn't invade his country. HE LOST!!! To my way of thinking, Saddam Hussein and his two sons, Uday and Qusay, WERE human Weapons of Mass Destruction, and the whole world is better off now that they're decomposing in the ground. The grandest sight I ever beheld was seeing Saddam standing on the scaffold, with the noose around his neck. WHOOSH!!! Where'd he go? To Hell, baby, to Hell!!! '
                                I'm going to take issue with this rubbish. Saddam gassed something like 5000 Kurds, so it's okay to invade and be responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths? You are right in saying that Saddam could not afford for his enemies in the Middle East to know he had a busted flush, but was it really worth the lives of one million, yes million people that will have died by the time this fiasco ends? And this is what, to install democracy just like in Afghanistan where Karzai has just corrupted his way to regaining the Presidency? Have you people learned anything? You remove a dictator you placed yourself in Iraq, then place another in Afghanistan that is guaranteed to go the same way as Saddam in 10 years? Saddam's sons were no doubt guilty of killing a lot of people, but only in their biggest wet dream could they imagine killing on the scale that has happened since their father was deposed. Do you really think Iraq is a safer place than it was 10 years ago? Do you really think the world is a safer place in general? Saddam was a monster and I don't want to appear like I'm defending him, but there was no slaughter on the scale it is now while he was in power, and there were certainly no insurgents. I can only guess that you're an oil baron or a shareholder in Halliburton, because they're the only people with reason to celebrate like you are.
                                I remember exactly where I was when 9/11 happened as I imagine most people do. I've never seen a suggestion anywhere, on any forum, on any news channel anywhere what the victims of 9/11 would want in their name. Would they really want genocide committed in their name on people who had NOTHING to do with their deaths? Would you?
                                Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

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                                  CGSailor — 16 years ago(September 05, 2009 07:41 AM)

                                  You close with a paragraph about knowing where you were on 9/11
                                  And your point is?!?!
                                  Iraq and Saddam has nothing to do with 9/11. Only Afghanistan
                                  Iraq was about Saddam's refusal to comply with UN resolutions set in place after Desert Storm.
                                  Adn now to the real stupidity of your post.
                                  You try to rationalize what you think is wrong by comparing the deaths Sadadm and his sons did compared to the much higher deaths you think WE Caused.
                                  Your liberal jack@ss self cannot grasp the fact that those higher death tolls are caused not by Us, but by the very terrorists and insurgents that we are over there fighting.
                                  you go back to 2003 and read about ever damn bomb that has gone off over there. only a small percentage of the insurgent bombings are directed at US and coalition forces. THE VAST MAJORITY of them are directed at Mosques, Schools, Shopping centers, Police stations, cafes, and the like.
                                  The vast majority of the dead Iraqi's are Killed BY THEM not us.
                                  When WE target the enemey.. we are attacking the ones who are doing it NOT Civilians.
                                  Now.. it IS a war.. and in war you cannot prevent 100% civilian casualties and that is a horrible thing. but for your smug a$$ self to sit there and blame the US for it is bullsh*t.
                                  You are so full of liberal bile it isn't funny.
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                                    mapljim — 16 years ago(September 08, 2009 10:03 AM)

                                    The thing I learned most from this thread is that some people actually get their news from MSNBC.

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                                      CGSailor — 16 years ago(September 11, 2009 01:47 PM)

                                      Or the NY Times
                                      I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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                                        kena1956 — 16 years ago(September 29, 2009 01:48 PM)

                                        Yeah right, we should watch FOX and listen to Rush where they make up their own set of "facts" to support their racist, greedy, unamerican point of view.
                                        "The worst part of ignorance isn't what we don't know; it's that so much of what we do know just isn't so."

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                                          redwingjs — 16 years ago(September 29, 2009 05:57 PM)

                                          So, because they have different opinions than you, they are unamerican? How unamerican of you.
                                          I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.
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