It's Marine, not soldier
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krivak2 — 16 years ago(August 19, 2009 11:05 PM)
I, too, am an ex-Marine, so I understand where you're coming from, BUT
It never bothered me at all when someone would refer to me as "soldier." Why should I be upset at someone who doesn't know any better? I also never saw anything productive in shaming the person by correcting their mistake. As long as it is said in a spirit of respect, why make the fuss? Now if someone is being a jackass and calls you "soldier" that's different. MHO
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oldsalt61 — 16 years ago(October 18, 2009 07:21 PM)
I think it's a post draft thing. There is a progressively smaller percentage of the general population having served in the military with the aging/death of the WWII and Vietnam generations and as a result there are more people who aren't as familiar with the proper terminology. My experience is that such an "error" is best handled by considering the intent of the person addressing you. If they are attempting to address you respectfully you may have the opportunity of correcting them without embarrassing them. If time or circumstances don't allow for that simply acknowledge them respectfully and move on. IMHO overreacting and embarrassing the person who is trying to be polite does nothing but drive a little more wedge into the divide between the military and civilian worlds. Now if it being said in an attempt to be disrespectful; well, how you handle that has to be based on the individual situation.
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sirsalon — 16 years ago(November 19, 2009 11:11 PM)
Thanks for injecting some sanity into this conversation. If this conversation had been in real time, it would have come to blows and who knows what else.
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mastadoy — 16 years ago(November 28, 2009 02:37 PM)
Pretty funny thread. In Norway we have a "mandatory" military service of one year (for males), which about 75% decide to trade in for a more fruitful civilian service. Meaning, working for a low symbolic sum at for instance a local school, health care center or retirement homes. Therefore, military rank is something almost all Norwegians really don't care about, and why should we? A soldier is someone who has chosen to "serve his country" (what a thought, implying that finding other healthy labours aren't a part of serving ones country) in the military, no matter which part of the military he or she has chosen to join. And why on earth should a soldier deserve more respect than say, a teacher? Should a math teacher be offended for someone calling him just.."teacher"? Wars are a far away subject in our country, because we have chosen it to be so. And therefore respect is something you earn, as a decent human being, not something you automatically are entitled to for putting on a uniform.
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Devil_Doc1988 — 16 years ago(December 08, 2009 10:05 PM)
a couple points i'd like to makefirst off as a corpsman(HM3) i deal w/ just about every branch.
Second, i dont know why ppl are trying to correct us in the military saying a teacher is a teacher, a doctor is a doctor so a marine is a soldier, basically generalizing everything.. ok thats nicenot for us sorry we have a lil pride and discipline.
Third, some ppl think we're not worth at least learning the basic about im talking about THE BASIC like a Soldier Sailor Airman Marine or Guardsman i mean do we go around telling you "oh college student, smart-ass knowit all hippy-lib douche they're basically all the same" no we dont.
Fourth.. yeah other civil service jobs are important but im sorry when's the last time a teacher or mailman went, volunteered and fought maybe even died in a war?.i'll wait so yeah i think we're a lil more important then other jobs. im also tired of ppl saying "why should i give a beep he volunteered" yeah be ignorant dick..
And lastly its negative ppl like you why i don't believe in a mando service time, only because i think 90% of ppl forced would probably get someone killed, i hate working w/ ppl who are a hot mess and they volunteered..cant imagine how a draftee would be.. -
mastadoy — 16 years ago(December 13, 2009 03:44 AM)
The one thing that stood out from your post was that you seemed to imply that since you have a higher chance of being hurt or killed in service, your job is more important than that of a postman or a milkman. I'm sorry, but I fail to see the logic in this.
You also seem to imply that I care less about deaths if a soldier volunteered, which is far from the truth. A death is always a tragedy, but I refuse to grieve more for a person who "gave his life" for his country (nationalism is a pretence I strongly reject, nations and borders should exist solely for beurocratic reasons in my opinion), than if a postman is hit by a milk truck.
A soldier is a soldier to my eyes, and if you hink it's important to differentiate between separate sections of the military, then it's your job to make me aware of them. Not mine. -
XakkMaster — 15 years ago(April 15, 2010 08:27 AM)
I'd like to start off by saying I respect those who join the Military for the right reasons. For those who really want to defend the ones they love and believe in freedom.
Too often, kids join today because they want excitement or to carry a gun. Hopefully they get the discipline they need in training.
Now as for all the "Soldier" talk, let's take a look at the dictionary:
soldier/ Show Spelled[sohl-jer]
noun- a person who serves in an army; a person engaged in military service.
- an enlisted man or woman, as distinguished from a commissioned officer: the soldiers' mess and the officers' mess.
- a person of military skill or experience: George Washington was a great soldier.
- a person who contends or serves in any cause: a soldier of the Lord.
I know that there is a distinct difference for enlisted men and women, but in general speak, a soldier is someone who is enlisted in any branch of the military. An army is different from THE Army.
army
1.the military forces of a nation, exclusive of the navy and in some countries the air force.
2.(in large military land forces) a unit consisting typically of two or more corps and a headquarters.
3.a large body of persons trained and armed for war.
I intend no disrespect, simply pointing out that a civilian reffering to any person in the military as a soldier means no disrespect either.
When it comes down to it, you all offer the same great service to our country. Defense.
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kicagree — 15 years ago(June 03, 2010 06:52 PM)
So, if I were to address a servicemand or woman, what should address them as? because I have no idea how to tell one person from the other. I would appreciate the input.
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CGSailor — 13 years ago(March 08, 2013 11:35 AM)
Anything green and camoflage, then its 'soldier'
Unless that green and camouflage is a US Marine, then it's "Marine", not "Soldier"
Demonstrating you lack of knowledge again Premmie?
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