U.S. treatment of its KIAs/veterans puts UK to shame…
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oldsalt61 — 16 years ago(October 17, 2009 02:27 PM)
QinetiQ I'm hope you are appreciative of the freedoms you enjoy because your military is willing to protect them for you. Yes, people from other professions do important work that should be appreciated; but it usually isn't performed while away from home and family for extended periods of time and while getting shot at! I'll keep thanking the prior service and active duty folks when I cross paths with them. In my opinion they've earned it!
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QinetiQ — 16 years ago(February 05, 2010 11:02 AM)
You see, I just dont see it that simple.
Sure I appreciate my freedom and like I said in my previous posts, I still go out and honor the soldiers of WW2 who liberated my country. And well, thats exactly my point. My country is not being liberated from anything, no one is planning to invade it and the ONLY thing that is of a threat is where the politicians are sending them now, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. I know a lot of soldiers here and they had a quiet, routine life and suddenly when they get called for duty to Afghanistan, they start protesting. I mean, wtf, why did you join the army? You know when you sign up that theres a risk you get send to a war somewhere. So no, I dont thank them, it's a risky job for sure, but there are a lot of risky jobs. -
thoth-ibis-1 — 16 years ago(September 08, 2009 03:57 PM)
The UK should be proud of their military. Those who spit on the military there should read up on the second world war! The Battle of Britain produced some the greatest heroes the world has ever known. While posted in England I marched in Battle of Britain remembrance parade. The older people would stop and applaud the parade. Younger ones seemed indifferent.
History should also recall Dunkirk and Rummel's problems in North Africa with the ever formidable Montgomery. Who sank the Bismark?
It's a fact in my book, that had it not been for the British military World War II would not have ended favorably for freedom. Through-out human history the Union Jack has flown over much that is great. The English, the Scots, Welsh, Irish are all great peoples with great ideals & ideas.
While there are plenty of good Americans we have our fools as well. -
Son_of_Elvis — 16 years ago(September 14, 2009 06:34 PM)
Yes Thoth, no Hollywood movie could ever really capture the spirit of men like Sir Douglas Bader and Johnson Beharry, or anyone that has ever won the VC for example. In fact, I would remortgage my house to bet that most Americans wouldn't know their names. If anyone who reads this does not know their names, you should look them up if you want a real history lesson (especially Bader).
My mother cared for the widow of Rear Admiral Basil Place VC, CB, CVO, DSC, who was a truly great man and accomplished things the rest of us could only dream of, including being awarded the Victoria Cross at the age of 22 (if you don't know that the VC is, it's the highest award for valour possible when facing the enemy, and the chances are if you are awarded one, you don't live to receive it yourself). I have visited his home and it is a humbling experience, just to see how brave one man could be on so many occasions. You could serve in the armed forces for a thousand years and never hope to achieve anything near what people like Admiral Place and his equals have done, never mind the people like myself who have never served.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. -
dlbkr2 — 16 years ago(December 08, 2009 02:42 PM)
Other things that are hinted on this movie is that it is not only KIA or Injured service members that have a treatment such as this. Flying on passenger planes in the US, many pilots will allow service members to deplane at their destination before other passengers as a show of respect for returning service members. This is usually notified when the plane is taxing to the jetway after landing and the service members is recognized over the intercom.
Many service members are also allowed to pre-board on civilian flights when returning from service. Organizations such as the USO usually have rooms in the major airports to provide a bed/shower/changing area for service members that are traveling to new duty stations so they can change into or out of uniforms, or can get a free night's sleep without having to pay money for a hotel room during a layover.
And even though we periodically display our flags on our property, or put ribbons on our trees in the front yard, respect for service members has become a place where the public has bit their tongue with opposing opinions. I would expect it is because of our all volunteer military, but incidences of people expressing hatred towards the military in public is few and far between. -
hobihors — 16 years ago(April 02, 2010 04:31 PM)
It seems to me that the OP is talking about visible representations of support rather than support itself, and further, he is mistaking the lack of the former for the lack of latter.
It also seems to me that he/she is missing a movie made about soldiers, similar to "taking Chance", much more than actually thinking through about all the other ways a society honors its' soldiers, and without questioning if superficial and subjective appearances really do represent reality.
Maybe you just do not know ways in which soldiers are helped and respected, and its just easier for you to fuel your own fire of anger. How is that honoring the soldiers anyway? -
dagaul101 — 14 years ago(November 16, 2011 04:38 AM)
I have to say that the treatment and dignity for the returning soldiers was what made the movie special, regardless of your thoughts about the war or lack of justification for it
Source:Movie Reviews - Taking Chance
http://moviereviews.noskram.com/2009/09/movie-reviews-for-taking-chanc e