does Taking Chance change your mnind about war both how, when, or if ?
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j-jordan321 — 17 years ago(March 16, 2009 07:41 PM)
No, no! I wasent talking to you! = ( Sorry for not being specific Pipestr. My bad. I was talking to the boy friend troll poster. or what ever the screen name is. Sorry agian! = (
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sgtobey — 17 years ago(March 21, 2009 10:26 AM)
My argument is not with the people fighting the war. It's with the people who sent them there.
What I would like to know is at what point can we finally say "Our work is done here. We have won. We can go home now." -
debaryman101 — 16 years ago(August 01, 2009 01:47 PM)
Do me a favor sir to answer your second question you have your opinion on the first
Go take a look at YOUTUBE do a search for SGT First Class John C. Beale there is a video they are taking his body back home. I see very few in that video showing respect for someone they don't know. a small amount of people who really care. maybe this will answer your second question.
This vid was not shown on news or told about by newspapers, My father sent it to me. The people came out to show respect and they didn't have to be asked to do it. -
Son_of_Elvis — 16 years ago(September 03, 2009 06:38 PM)
It's a difficult question to ask whether war is worth fighting. Some wars are, and some aren't. World War II was most definitely a war worth fighting, a war against pure evil and oppression, but it was an exception in human history where war has usually been about enrichment or the gain of the elite. I'm not just referring to the present conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan, God knows there's enough threads and forums about them, but most wars have been fought over powerful men trying to gain more power and riches while the sons of the poor fight the battles on the ground. If the sons and daughters of politicians and the rich were expected to go into battle, war would end tomorrow.
Edit: I just realised this made me sound like a communist, when I actually lean toward more right-wing values. I'm all for capitalism and enriching oneself, but not at the expense of other people's children.
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debaryman101 — 15 years ago(September 27, 2010 10:41 AM)
so this war is not worth fighting? WW2 was? read your history dude the war was raging before december 7th 1941 and the US sat it out, as did a certain few adminstrations during this war, which was raging before september 11th 2001. Not as much as during the time period before WW2, but one side declared war. the islamist side. who wants to go to war?? no one. but it happens. like the saying to have peace you must be ready for war.
there are politicians sons involved in this war, one being our own vice president. Joe biden. also rich people PAT TILLMAN. rich people in WW2 fought also. many movies stars at the time, so don't just say the poor go to war. -
Hungry_Mind — 15 years ago(January 02, 2011 12:10 PM)
Spent 2 tours in Iraq, a total of 33 months (They stop-loss me twice for crying out loud)
Anyway, i would want a world WITHOUT war, but seems like this is too much to ask. So the next thing i want is, if we were going to war, PLEASE SUPPORT US.
To anti-war protester, you can hate the government for all you like but please do not march on and sent us, soldier message that you hate us, i mean dude, we were overthere, trying to survive, spend a miserable 12-18 months in the worst place in the world and come back only to see people marching and not appreciating what we do? Com'on.
If you hate the war, please express your frustration or anger in ELECTION TIME, that's what they are for, if you cannot vote, then would you please shut the hell up.
To the politician. Either you give us what we need to finish the job or don't start a war you can't finish, what's the point giving us second rated equipment and put us into battlefield with all those RULES OF ENGAGEMENT?? How do you fight with one hand tied to the back and the other were all meshed up. I saw Tanks, APC and Humvee Broke down on, off and during firefight, well, com'on, where our's tax dollar gone?
If you do want to start a war, Don't do it half ass, the same as you want to bake a cake (What i do before i joined up, i am a pastry chef) You won't do it half ass and cut corner everywhere. And finally, for the last time, the PAY IS NOT ENOUGH. I earn better when i was a pastry chef then i was serving the country, $3000/month with danger bonus. Com'on, i earn almost twice that much baking cakes.