Opening Scenes She Starts Off DEAD?!?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Queen of the South
selketentr — 9 years ago(June 24, 2016 08:12 AM)
In the opening scenes, she snorts something that explodesand she appears to be dead. Is the entire series a flashback about how she died? We already know how this ends, so we can't root for her success or survival. It's over before it began.
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sirmildredpierce — 9 years ago(July 04, 2016 01:24 AM)
She is shot dead. This is based on a true story so there are no surprises. Just like the Pablo Escobar show on Netflix, we know he is going to die in the end. But that does not mean you cannot enjoy the show.
Queen of the South is not a true story at all, that's why nothing in it really makes any sense. It's an adaptation of a novel and a telenovela, and it's just as absurd as most telenovelas. It's enjoyable and all but it's pretty far detached from realism. -
lambiepie-2 — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 08:05 PM)
It's an adaptation of a novel and a telenovela, and it's just as absurd as most telenovelas.
Exactly. She dies. Well, that takes care of those who have a problem with her getting away with everything illegal. There are tons of movies, shows, etc. where you know the person is dead and the telling goes from there. It reminds me of when Siskel and Ebert were reviewing the movie "Star 80". Siskel says the most exciting scene to him was when Dorothy Stratton goes over to the door, the camera is on the door knob, her hand grasps it, the door is opening slowly.and you are thinking, "Go out the darn door!" but that makes no sense because you know she's dead. It's that. That what makes these types of film making exciting. Suspenseful.
It's soapy, keeps me interested. It's girl poweryeah it is. But very, very, BAD girls playing in what is thought of as male territory (Escobar, etc.)
On one hand, nice to see a different perspective, on the other hand, my goodness this is a horrible perspective!
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lightningcows — 9 years ago(June 26, 2016 02:10 PM)
yep, it may not be fatal. It is not uncommon for a movie (or a show in this case) to begin with a "dramatic moment" which is then followed-up on later. That being said, Teresa could still end up dead, as I doubt that drug kingpins have long lives, but I don't think that the assassination attempt in the beginning was it.
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cosmic_surveyor — 9 years ago(June 24, 2016 02:52 PM)
I'm thinking the sniper was not toying with her by shooting up other objects. Might not be a very good shooter.
I'm also thinking she survived the assassination attempt to voice-over her autobiography.
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jrneptune — 9 years ago(June 24, 2016 07:52 PM)
Shooting through a window can be a challenge even for an expert sniper. Also the blood coming out of her mouth appeared to be pink and a bit foamy indicating it might have been a lung shot which does not have to be fatal if treated quickly.
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mjbossy-419-826285 — 9 years ago(August 10, 2016 10:42 PM)
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Lawrence of Arabia
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lora-31 — 9 years ago(July 03, 2016 10:24 AM)
Well, Sunset Blvd. (1950), one of the greatest movies of all times, starts with the body of the main character floating dead in the pool Or Citizen Kane (1941), THE greatest movie of all times, starts with the protagonist dying, so
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politicidal — 9 years ago(August 06, 2016 06:12 PM)
Stupid way to start the series I agree. The rest of the pilot didn't help either. Braga looks lovely as ever but it was such a boring program.
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gswan — 9 years ago(September 20, 2016 08:41 PM)
Several people have said that a sniper bullet to the chest is not a guaranteed kill even with an expert sniper.
Several other people have expressed extreme doubt about the possibility of Teresa's survival.
Well, a Green Beret in Afghistan, shot Canadian youth Omar Khadr, in the back, at point blank range, three times. Yet he survived. There are pictures of him, lying on the battlefield, with lumps blown out of his chest, the size of a golf ball. I guess the bullets all missed his heart. Modern emergency rooms can help gunshot victims live through wounds that would have killed them in the past.
Someone, above, noted that shooting through a window is a complication. If the sniper shoot through a window, at an angle, the alision with the window will change the bullet's path. A sniper'''' who could hit her in the heart, at ten times the range, can't guarantee he will hit her that precisely, or at all, if a window is in the way.
In Frederick Forsyth's novel
The Jackal
, he offered a relatively long description of his sniper slowly tuning where his sniper scope pointed. He fires several dozen fully jacketed bullets at a pumpkin, or melon. Each jacketed bullet pokes a hole through the melon, barely slowing down. Then he fires a special bullet his underground gunsmith made for him, that had an inner capsule of mercury, which would escape the capsule, when the bullet struck something, and rapidly slowed down. Forsyth's description is quite graphic, the melon explodes when the mercury fans out.
But, if the sniper fired a bullet like that, and it hit a window, it would lose considerable destructive power by the time it hit her, if it hit her at all. -
drmokedweed123 — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 01:38 AM)
Well I mean..we see her getting shot, it essentially leaves off on a cliffhanger. They could up and say "the bullet missed her heart by an inch, she survived"
So at the end it's entirely possible we find out she survives. At this point there is no proof she is dead, just proof she got shot. So it's literally an assumption we can't ultimately prove at this point.