I hated Dillinger and wanted him to die. What did I miss?
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Petronius Arbiter II — 15 years ago(October 10, 2010 05:32 PM)
http://www.imdb.com/board/11152836/board/nest/167218655?d=167282477#1 67282477
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Cimmerian_Dragon — 15 years ago(November 28, 2010 08:16 AM)
"this is beep this movie is so historically inaccurate its ridiculous. thats why it has a 7.1 rating."
Okay, everybody laugh your ass off. In what world is a 7.1 a poor rating? If I enjoy a genre film, and probably wouldn't watch it again, but am glad I spent the time to view it and would recommend it to other fans of the genreI give it a 5/10. It's an average film, not too bad, not too good. If I gave a movie a 7/10, that would have to be a film worth recommending to a more general audience. 8-10, you're getting into classic territory. Why is it that people think a 1-10 scale means "I like this move, give it a ten" or "I hate this movie, don't give it a ten!"If there were reason for these miseries,
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negrinpeace — 12 years ago(January 11, 2014 10:29 AM)
Hello.
While your argument it's true and valid, I belive that in fact a director makes a film expecting some kind of reaction of the audience. This is his work of art and he shows it to the world so he definitelly cares about the viewer. You mentioned a guy who was a surprisingly complex character but we don't see this in the film. We see a guy we likes fast cars and whiskey. And robbing and stealing and yeskilling. I was expecting a more visceral and complex character like you say he was, but we recieve a cartooned and self important guy who doesn't really shows his true colours in case he had it like you said he did. And that my friend is because the director portraits the legend of John Dillinger (not the real person) and kinda force us to like him wich irronically makes us dislike him. Nobody watches a film in a theater like he does it. Nobody wears that clothes in a robbery. Nobody dies of a shot to the head smiling. I think we see a stylish portrait of a "super hroe" who doesn't get his hands dirty enough(like all Depps characters)and that at the end turns out leavin more doubts about him that awnsers and conclusions. -
sabar-1 — 15 years ago(October 20, 2010 10:15 AM)
One interesting thing to keep in mind is that Dillinger never actually killed anyone, from what I understand. It's up for debate apparently - some think he shot one man.
Doesn't mean his gang didn't and that he didn't engage in awful things, like taking someone hostage, but opinion then and later was that he wasn't as bad as portrayed by the media and the law. I'm not sure the real Dillinger was as engaging as Depp.
My mother recalls that time and says that many saw these criminals as colorful characters who broke the monotony of the daily grind of life at the time. Also, he was admired for his intelligence in continually outwitting entire teams attempting to catch him.
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Petronius Arbiter II — 15 years ago(October 20, 2010 12:30 PM)
"I'm not sure the real Dillinger was as engaging as Depp."
IMAO, the real Dillinger was
more
engaging than Depp's portrayal of him in this film. Almost everybody who ever met him liked him personally, if only in the somewhat superficial way that people say "I like that guy" of somebody whom they don't know all that well.
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pfarnell — 9 years ago(July 17, 2016 06:18 PM)
One interesting thing to keep in mind is that Dillinger never actually killed anyone, from what I understand. It's up for debate apparently - some think he shot one man.
yes, that's the popular urban myth, but the Burrough's book of same name movie is (loosely very loosely) based on, Dillinger is directly responsible for at least one death.
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Six-Shooter — 15 years ago(November 14, 2010 06:58 PM)
If it helps with your decision on the morals of Dillinger, in reality, he killed much less than in the movie. Something like one.
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aniketagg87 — 15 years ago(December 02, 2010 08:54 AM)
Johnny Depp didn't even make the character charming in any way! He just let him look neurotic! That didn't work for me. This was the first Dillinger movie I saw and I couldn't understand his appeal at all. Although the movie was a good pass of time thank god for HBO for showing it.
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trompos — 15 years ago(December 17, 2010 06:30 AM)
I know xactly how you feel, this whole movie was trash and the end piece about Purvis WAs meant to make people say HAHA died copper die. But alas, he died accidently trying to extract a jammed cartrige in the chamber of his pistol.
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spielberto — 9 years ago(September 19, 2016 01:33 PM)
Back then, suicide was REALLY a stigma.
The guy dies alone with a gun.at home.
He wasn't at the gun range.
They just didn't want an FBI hero, the guy that got Dillenger, to be stigmatized as a 'loser' who is burning in Hell for the sin of suicide. So it becomes, 'he was cleaning his gun' and it 'accidentally went off' sorta thing. -
davin_fealth — 14 years ago(June 27, 2011 05:52 PM)
you must have missed a few things. yes he took hostages. and use htem as sheilds but he never shot at innocent people unless he was fired apoon first. he took hostages and tied them to a tree one of the hostgates says "we will freeze out here" and Dillianger said "you will wiggle your way out of that in 10 minutes" he didn't needless kill people like babyface nealson.
The American outlaw was a symbol of true freedom in the 20's
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retnug — 14 years ago(July 17, 2011 02:18 PM)
What I took away from this movie is people who like baseball, movies, fast cars, good clothes, whiskey, women, and robbing banks will die in the end. I think he deserved it and I don't see why he was so popular with the people. Maybe if the movie would have explained that instead of focusing on the dumb relatiomship between Dillinger and Billie it would make more sense. But worse than Dilinger was Billie.
Was she too stupid to realize Dillinger was a criminal and if you were part of his gang the law wouldn't hesitate to arrest or kill you?
Was she also too stupid to realize Dillinger was basically responsible for the guy (did they ever give his name?)beating her?
For some strange reason she still loves Dillinger even though all of the things that happened to her were his fault. I felt no sympathy for either of them.
I didn't hate this movie, I just didn't like it. There were other parts I actually enjoyed but overall I didn't like it.