Why the ending was disappointing
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toonhaze — 13 years ago(October 27, 2012 09:02 AM)
That is the beauty of the games like Mass Effect. You don't have this corny one-way plot. You are almost in total control of how the story will end. I look forward for better graphics in games.
If I should decide how the movie should have ended, Clyde should have blown up the major and everyone else, killed Nick's wife and daughter. Afterwards Nick should have killed Clyde in rage and have commited suicide. Really, alot of you might disagree I am sure but that would be a twisted end with a bitter taste in your mouth.
Right now I feel like the entire movie is pointless because Clyde didn't truly succeed in "attacking the hub of all power" after going through all of the hard work. Anticlimax. -
StefL — 13 years ago(November 13, 2012 01:47 AM)
I was throughly disappointed as well, but more so about how the film makers created a "too simple" solution to how Clyde was achieveing his actions outside the prison. The whole plot with him having dug a tunnel into the prison before being sent there simply has too many flaws:
- He could have been placed in a different prison
- How the H-LL would prison management not notice the tunnel?!
- Coming and going without it ever getting found out he wasn't in the cell when he wasn't
I was personally convinced that for the things he hadn't already prepared when he got arrested, he had an accomplish. I was actually seriously starting to think Sarah was his accomplish, and that we would eventually learn what reasons she had for that. So I have to tell you I was surprised when she got blown to smithereens. A plot with an accomplish would have felt a lot more satisfactory for me, the whole tunnel thing smelled too much of super hero/super powers.
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ryder_78 — 13 years ago(November 14, 2012 12:16 AM)
He somehow had to die after the mess he had created, though he died in rather unspectacular fashion. Yes, he died too easily in the end without much drama and adrenaline-filled fightback. Such a waste for an otherwise excellent film. The director obviously ran out of ideas on how to get him killed.
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d_green_maverick — 13 years ago(January 02, 2013 06:44 AM)
I agree. great movie only turned into a massive fail in the last 5 minutes of the film. the ending is it
s complete undoing. I dont mind Geralds character dying in the end, but the way he died in such a silly fashion is just too stupid to be simply ignored. also, hated Jamies arrogant character outsmarting a military tactician that simply. leaving a bomb briefcase in a city hall is not complicated and more amateurish. what were they thinking. -
cameursault — 13 years ago(January 04, 2013 05:42 PM)
I personally don't mind the leap of logic required for tunnel under the prison - especially when we read stories every few months about the Taliban springing a prisoner break by digging a tunnel into a high security military prison (see gq from 9/2012).
But, the ending required too much of a suspension of disbelief and ruined the film for me. The story went to great lengths to show how meticulously planned Clyde's scheme was. Each and every time he clearly out smarted everyone and was always 3 steps ahead of everyone else, leaving little to chance. Then, somehow, when it comes to the execution of the final and most important part of his plan, he leaves everything to chance!! It's as if someone else wrote the final 5% and Clyde became a bumbling idiot who didn't know what he was doing.
As others have pointed out, the ending seemed to exist solely do the audience could leave happy - regardless of believability based on everything the movie established/developed up until that point (I.e. accepting tee absurdities the movie relied upon, but did so in a consistent manner, but then creating an inconsistent ending). I felt the same way with the ending in Collateral - also a Foxx movie.
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patrick_bateman_90029 — 10 years ago(August 12, 2015 03:46 AM)
I would have been a happier audience member if Nick had been incinerated along with Clyde. I agree with everyone else that he was unbearably smug and arrogant and deserved to pay for the hell he unleashed.
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Jerbsinator — 13 years ago(January 19, 2013 11:09 PM)
Ya, it was a great movie but the ending definitely is a large plot hole. How they got the bomb into his cell without Clyde knowing is ridiculous and even more ridiculous is how Nick got to the prison before Clyde . Also, Clyde is the kind of person that he would have noticed that the warehouse had been searchedhe would have seen something out of place, no matter how small. And lastly, if he had this all planned out, the bomb would be planted in city hall long before he started killing people, all he would have to do is arm it. He would be smart enough to put it somewhere no one would ever find it. He wouldn't leave it in plain freaking sight either
It seems like the director made Clyde's character lose about 75 IQ points in the last 15 minutes. -
smash_ogre19 — 13 years ago(February 06, 2013 04:13 PM)
Who is responsible for the actions committed? Who makes the decisions on who to let out and keep in jail for however long. I think Gerald Butler may have killed some who did not deserve it, but think they all worked with Jaime Foxx and he was able to get them all down to the prison to help find connections so he could have gotten them all involved in the case against the murderers.I was disappointed with the Ending Jaime Foxx should have died. How many people get hurt or killed by decisions to let some criminals go to have a higher conviction rate or to make sure someone pays?
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snorkelzombie — 13 years ago(March 05, 2013 07:32 AM)
yeah, the ending was a failure for me. if i were to rewrite this, i'd have it that the tunnel won't be discovered that soon, the bomb will not be discovered and the city hall will blow up, clyde will be tried for killing all those people but nick wouldn't have as much evidence to convict him (maybe there's a way to negate his confessions - will have to research on this), anyhoo, clyde goes free and will tell nick " it's not what you know, it's what you can prove" so nick will realize how beep up the justice system is, and finally, clyde will tell nick how he did the killings using the tunnel and everything and nick will be left looking like idiot. that's how i like it. ciao!
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quocbuu — 12 years ago(April 30, 2013 10:01 PM)
I saw this film some years ago on a fly from Frankfurt to Hong Kong. Did not notice the film really well, until yesterday i saw it again. The film is really good from the first moment until the last some minutes. In the film they told Clyde is somebody who has a super brain with at least 200 iQ. But how can he oversee - or not recognize - that somebody has break into his garage forcibly ?!? I think if, the director let Clyde expecting Nice Rice is awaiting him in his prison cell . And with his IQ over 200 ":-))" , he would know that the bomb is in his cell and activated the bomb intentionally. And went into the second exit which he has prepare to survive the explosion. In this case, it token the super intelligent Clyde as the film show the whole time.
And maybe we have the chance to see.. to be continued
And the worst things in the film, that nothing happen Nick Rice. I doesn't gratification the feeling of the audience, but it show the reality !!!!!
Music, Cinematography of the film is wonderful.
Gerard Butler is an excellent actor in this film. Christoph Waltz copied the way of conversation and action from Butler, from the scene he shaw Clyde torture the killer of his family, i think ! -
arkast — 12 years ago(May 01, 2013 02:42 PM)
He didn't have time to notice if the garage door was broken into forcibly.
Well yes, the ending was pretty bad to be honest aside from all the holes that are plausible to be there.
Fox's character didn't really seem to develop that well and nothing really changed with that ending.
The way people saw it is that, one terrorist controling their city for a few days.
They didn't notice if the justice system was flawed or not righteous. How could they?
Also, isn't Fox a little worried if he is gonna be accused or anything? A bomb just appeared into a cell, in which there was a possible murdered of him or his family? That's motive. -
don-woodring32 — 12 years ago(June 15, 2013 11:44 AM)
I really like this movie, but I agree with you and I am disappointed in the ending as well. Clyde worked for 10 years to "teach" the legal system that they cannot make deals with murderers. Nick did not understand how or why Clyde was so hurt by the deal he made with the murderer and rapist of his wife and daughter. However, when Nick's family was sent a DVD with the killing of one of the murderers being tortured and killed, he became enraged and vengeful. Nick caused the death of Clyde because Clyde was not satisfied that the legal system understood why making deals with murderers was so wrong. Nick became what Clyde was and as a viewer, I wanted Nick to be the "good guy" when it was all said and done. Instead, he justified breaking the law (breaking and entering, putting a bomb in Clyde's cell) because it was important to stop Clyde. If he instead, Nick saved Clyde from himself at the end, the viewer would have sympathized with Nick. If at the end, Nick would have shown Clyde the disarmed bomb, it would have been easier to look at Nick as the hero instead of a self centered hypocritical lawyer more concerned with winning then justice. I think that most people who watched the movie were cheering for Clyde to get revenge on the harm done to his family. At the end, Nick "killed" Clyde who everyone related to as the man that was getting justice for the murder and rape of his family.
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sevenof9fl — 12 years ago(June 15, 2013 02:15 PM)
I had not seen the movie until today and was under the incorrect impression that they both died in the end, which I thought they both paid for their errors. Of course that turned out to be wrong.
Having said that though, I think the only saving grace for Nick is that he did say in the last scene that he knew he made a mistake by making deals with killers ("I don't make any more deals with murderers" or words to that effect) so he does see the error of his ways.
Clyde however, had a whole different agenda, killing innocent people who were just trying to do their jobs to the best of their ability with their hearts in the right place. They were not what Nick had become: jaded and all about "clearing cases and 'winning' statistics." And Clyde was never going to stop. As the one character said "the only way you'll stop him is by putting a board through his head."
It was a sad ending and Nick and the others took the law into their own hands, sorta left a bad taste in my own mouth but if Clyde wasn't ever going to stop, they had no choice. He pretty much went insane.
"As the Philosopher Jagger said, you can't always get what you want."