Dahmer on Netflix
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Vlad. — 3 years ago(September 24, 2022 01:43 PM)
Relax. He was extremely gay. I was correct in my assessment. Just because you don’t like hearing it doesn’t render my words incorrect.
Aren’t you the guy always mocking “breeders”? Trust me, I can be a lot less kind to you for that, if you’d prefer.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 24, 2022 02:20 PM)
Relax. He was extremely gay. I was correct in my assessment.
Define extremely gay please and in comparison to what? He DID NOT come across as "extremely gay" and just to look at him, he did not exude the stereotypical image that you are implying.
Stop acting like an ignorant breeder please?
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Vlad. — 3 years ago(September 24, 2022 01:30 PM)
I actually don’t think he was a sadist after watching this. He never tried to inflict pain on his victims. He tried to kill them but not torture them. Even his “zombies” were intended to remove the element of pain and displeasure from the equation. He simply wanted to be intimate with them, and to him, the only way he felt he could do that is through murder
It was sad. He didn’t even need to do all this. He had many opportunities to build a normal relationship with these people, if only his head wasn’t all ****ed.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 24, 2022 02:22 PM)
Fuck Dahmer!!! His sadism came in a passive aggressive form. That he just kept on going and what he did to the bodies was ****ing disgusting and even cruel, especially to the survivors of the victims, them knowing what Dahmer did to them.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 03:03 AM)
It was. It was done with such skill, care and excellence considering the distressing subject matter.
There has been no genuine closure, almost 30yrs after Dahmer's death and people are still asking questions and are fascinated. Typical law enforcement and city establishment agencies trying to sweep it under the rug.
I am re-thinking a bit of my stance on Dahmer and how he ended up. He had dysfunction in his young life, yet nothing others haven't experienced and he had love, care and concern from both his father and grandmother. The mother was a bit of an aloof nutcase.
I sort of feel now he should have been kept alive in a psychiatric institute, although it didn't surprise me how he ended up buying it out of this world. He perhaps needed to be observed and studied as to why he went to the extremes he did.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 10:25 AM)
Lionel said to his second wife in the car scene, that he didn't recognize the red flags prior when Jeff was getting into legal trouble for sexual crimes. If only he had known they were already so much bigger than he could imagine, since Jeff had already killed that hitchhiker.
I don't think at that stage that Jeff was fully psychopathic, if that is what he was at that stage, because the kill was a random reaction and he disposed of the body to avoid getting caught. This is typical behavior of many violent criminals. How could he possibly live with himself knowing what he had done though?
The guilt must have consumed him and once he started up again and could see how easy it was to get away with it, he just kept doing it. It was even risky doing it in a cramped apartment block and the smells emanating were a key indicator.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 11:15 AM)
Netflix would have dramatized a tad, but from what I have read, they kept in most of the scenarios as described. One guy Dahmer killed, he actually slashed his carotid artery, which was a rare kill for him. I don't recall this being depicted in the series.
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Pandora — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 11:25 AM)
I wish I could have found out more about that deaf victim, Tony
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Pandora — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 11:14 AM)
Yeah and after he spent the year in prison and his dad picked him up and asked if he had seen anyone while he was in there and Jeffrey was like, no, I just kept myself to myself and his dad sends him off to the car and then breaks down in total despair.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 10:16 AM)
He did claim he couldn't help himself. He just couldn't stop once he started.
After his first victim though, he waited 9yrs before he started up again and then couldn't quit.
I do think he was consumed by guilt and his drinking would have been to numb this. At the State Fair, he had a vision of the first dude he killed. As depicted, he appeared to kill him out of the guys reaction only, due to his advances being rejected.
If hypothetically he did have some brain/mind disorder that he couldn't help himself, then he really was mentally ill. He also said he wasn't insane and knew what he was doing.
He was lacking some sort of emphatic reasoning and couldn't seem to acknowledge the ripple effect of his extreme behavior.
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Pandora — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 11:20 AM)
It seemed part of his reasoning was almost out of love for the people he killed, like he didn't want them to leave him and so his warped sense of keeping them around was to keep actual body parts or by consuming them. And he said he always made sure they didn't suffer so he knew what he was doing was wrong but he was aware enough to make it as painless as possible for the victims