This show is chilling. Jeff was such a tortured, sick ****.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 11:15 AM)
Netflix would have dramatized a tad, but from what I have read, they kept in most of the scenarios as described. One guy Dahmer killed, he actually slashed his carotid artery, which was a rare kill for him. I don't recall this being depicted in the series.
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Pandora — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 11:25 AM)
I wish I could have found out more about that deaf victim, Tony
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Pandora — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 11:14 AM)
Yeah and after he spent the year in prison and his dad picked him up and asked if he had seen anyone while he was in there and Jeffrey was like, no, I just kept myself to myself and his dad sends him off to the car and then breaks down in total despair.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 10:16 AM)
He did claim he couldn't help himself. He just couldn't stop once he started.
After his first victim though, he waited 9yrs before he started up again and then couldn't quit.
I do think he was consumed by guilt and his drinking would have been to numb this. At the State Fair, he had a vision of the first dude he killed. As depicted, he appeared to kill him out of the guys reaction only, due to his advances being rejected.
If hypothetically he did have some brain/mind disorder that he couldn't help himself, then he really was mentally ill. He also said he wasn't insane and knew what he was doing.
He was lacking some sort of emphatic reasoning and couldn't seem to acknowledge the ripple effect of his extreme behavior.
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Pandora — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 11:20 AM)
It seemed part of his reasoning was almost out of love for the people he killed, like he didn't want them to leave him and so his warped sense of keeping them around was to keep actual body parts or by consuming them. And he said he always made sure they didn't suffer so he knew what he was doing was wrong but he was aware enough to make it as painless as possible for the victims
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 11:29 AM)
It was a strange sort of love though and he hardly knew his victims. Most were random hook ups. It was his lust that would have consumed him more than anything and this aspect of our lives can lead to huge amounts of suffering.
As also depicted in the series, we saw how he intimidated his prey, manipulated and bribed them and we heard through the vent in Glenda's apartment, how some were yelling out and one was complaining about stopping because it hurt.
Dahmer was a coward really. Some of those guys would have been bigger and stronger than him. He could only subdue them if they were subdued.
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Vlad. — 3 years ago(September 28, 2022 03:00 PM)
They say that the same part of the brain manages both violence and sexual desire. Most serial killers appear to have a sexual aesthetic to their killing where pleasure is derived from the act.
I think Dahmer had something wrong with his head. I don’t know when sexual kinks are formed but growing up, he expected rejection because most men aren’t homosexual or openly so. So he never got to develop that part of himself. The only things that didn’t reject him were the dead or otherwise unconscious. So he developed wiring that compelled him to seek emotional connection to people who were likewise.
For his apparent need for emotional connection, I don’t think he was a psychopath. Psychopathic but I don’t think he was devoid of all emotion. I am not expert on Dahmer or psychology but it seems to me like the guy didn’t know how else to satiate his desire for human connection other than by taking human life. That is tragic all around.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 05:57 AM)
Typical, homophobic castoff prick! Yes, it is creepy as **** and so was Dahmer, but so are you.
If you cared about his victims and how much of it is told from their pov and the damage created not only to their own lives, but those that knew them, you might find it somewhere in your bigoted and broken down little life, to unpucker your anal sphincter, grow some balls and find some empathy.
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Robgoblin — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 06:01 AM)
Empathy? Fucking LOL. Aren’t you the guy who argued yesterday that we shouldn’t care about people dying in the war? Hahah, what a ****ing moron you are.
Trust me bro, kill yourself.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 26, 2022 06:08 AM)
You obviously don't understand context, distort things to suit your own ignorant agenda and are just as bigoted as the rest.
Go **** yourself! You would be the exception to the rule and if you were one of Dahmer's victims, folks would rejoice.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?