Am I the only one that thinks she is not the devil wearing Prada?
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DogtownGirl — 16 years ago(September 20, 2009 03:51 PM)
The film hasn't hit my city yet. However, the trailer made Wintour's thaw look to be anything but inevitable. Andre Leon Talley is the most self-important fellow, there ever was, seems to me
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idlewood — 16 years ago(October 06, 2009 02:44 PM)
Andre Leon Talley is the most self-important fellow, there ever was, seems to me
And what is it, exactly, that this gentleman does for the publication?
Personally, I found it somewhat telling that he felt a need to envelope himself in LV accouterments, including racquet holder, in a game for which he is ill-prepared.
Granted, it's commendable that anyone get out there and hit balls to stay in shape, release endorphins, etc.
No doubt the truly excellent player will have the battered equipment stuffed into some old duffle bag. This reminds me of the young man I know (Brit, naturally) who drives a 20 year old Benz and subscibes to the old English saying "The people who count don't care, and the ones who care don't count".
Hope in time Mr. Talley might become comfortable enough to understand what this worldview implies. -
DogtownGirl — 16 years ago(October 06, 2009 06:39 PM)
Mmmm, yes.
Well, no doubt you read the topic that I started about this film which contains a 'review' of the film.
I think Andrew Leon Talley looks ridiculous in the film, sadly.
He's overly-blown, and too flamboyant for words. It is almost as though seeing HIM working for who he does, cheapens whole Operation and Enterprise.
It's funny. Apparently he comes from The South, yet his accent amd dialect do not give away his upbringing and heritage.
Hmmm, fancy that
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DogtownGirl — 16 years ago(October 16, 2009 09:52 AM)
I got that impression, as well. Although I did cringe at the beginning of the film when she surmised that people shop at K-Mart, because they fear fashion (Why, when they could be wearing a pretty Carolina Herrera dress?) rather than for the FACT that K-Mart can offer
stylish
stuff at an affordable price the key being affordable, because the rest of us do have to worry about money, or the lack thereof.
Besides, it isn't where you shop, as any good Fashionista knows.
It is how you combine the pieces you buy and the accessories you wear to create a total look.
One other bit? When Wintour blithely said "Excuse me" to an underling and that underling JUMPED to attention and moved aside with the speed of a cockroach
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I think she can be a bit full of herself and what she does, but, do I think she's The Devil Incarnate?
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kay_cee_d — 16 years ago(February 26, 2010 03:25 PM)
DogtownGirl you twisted her words a bit with the K-Mart thing. She said "Just because you love to put on a beautiful Carolina Herrera dress or J Brand jeans instead of something from K-Mart doesn't mean you're a dumb person." And what I think she means by that is just because you like to spend your money on fashion doesn't mean you're shallow. And that's true. People who belittle fashion often thing you shouldn't spend a lot of money on it and therefore buy clothes from K-Mart, Walmart, or Target or something like that. And I'm not saying those stores are unstylish or bad, but what I'm saying is that people who don't appreciate fashion tend to think that it is ridiculous to spend a lot of money or time on fashion.
Only the shell, the perishable passes away. The spirit is without end. Eternal. Deathless. -
DogtownGirl — 16 years ago(February 26, 2010 04:10 PM)
kay_cee_d,
What I got from what Wintour said was that she looks down upon folks who don't wear designer fashions or who choose not to, or who can't afford to. After all, we never see Wintour sporting more 'down market' stuff, do we?
And, of course working in the biz that she DOES, she isn't going to bash it by stating that fashionistas are shallow and somehow less intelligent than the rest of us is she?
I admire celebrities who muck in & get dirt under their manicures. Charity rules! -
kay_cee_d — 16 years ago(February 28, 2010 06:23 AM)
She MAY look down on people who don't wear designer fashions, and I wouldn't be surprised. But honestly from that comment in the beginning I honestly didn't see it necessarily as "I'm better than those people" it was more of a "We're not necessarily shallow or stupid because of what we like, etc.this isn't sillythis is important to us even if it is silly to other people."
Only the shell, the perishable passes away. The spirit is without end. Eternal. Deathless. -
DogtownGirl — 16 years ago(February 28, 2010 06:56 PM)
kay_c_dee,
I understand your viewpoint. Thanks. I still feel as though Wintour can be condescending often, and perhaps think of fashion as being more important than it actually is, but she's a great success, and I am not, so there we are.
I admire celebrities who muck in & get dirt under their manicures. Charity rules! -
kay_cee_d — 16 years ago(March 04, 2010 04:35 PM)
Oh yeah definitely. I was just speaking about that one isolated comment. I think she seems "okay".but definitely can be condescending.
Only the shell, the perishable passes away. The spirit is without end. Eternal. Deathless. -
MsD430 — 16 years ago(September 26, 2009 06:40 AM)
I agree. I was expecting to see this mean and horrible woman who made me cringe and probably never want to buy an issue of VOGUE. Instead, I saw her a strong and opinionated business woman who took other people's opinions into considerationbut, bottom line, Vogue is HER baby and she's gonna raise it the way she sees fit. I have a lot of respect for herbut, I LOVE Grace Coddington!!
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rocktheboat61 — 16 years ago(September 26, 2009 05:47 PM)
I walked away from the movie really respecting her She's firm and sometimes brutally honest, but she's running one of the most influential fashion magazines in America so you do what you have to do to get the job done.
I loved Grace too, but I really liked Anna more than I thought I would. The scene where she said her siblings find what she does "amusing" really showed some vulnerability I wasn't expecting. I think a lot of what she does is to prove to herself and others that her job is important. I really respect her drive and passion for it. -
MsD430 — 16 years ago(September 27, 2009 07:27 PM)
I felt so sorry for her when she said her siblings thought what she does is "amusing". She spoke of their careers like they were valid and important, but you could tell that she didn't feel she got the same respect in return. I, too, liked her way more than I thought I would.
Dawn