Biting the hand that feeds - Grace
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — The September Issue
Paulnott — 15 years ago(November 05, 2010 12:13 PM)
Maybe Anna Wintour was on her best behaviour in this movie (who wouldn't be?), but I thought she came across way better than Grace. My first, admittedly totally shallow, remark to her is "please get a haircut and treat your hair to some decent product, you aren't 21 any more." Second, she is so petulant throughout the movie I found her unbearable, and to be filmed bitching about her boss to her colleagues is unforgivable she's lucky still to have a job. She didn't like her photos being rejected, but at least in the "color block" shoot the final results seemed to be accepted as better.
I was expecting Anna Wintour to be a witch, and she wasn't. Again, maybe editing, but I can't help but think that if she were male, no-one would even question her style. -
cdunbar-3 — 15 years ago(November 08, 2010 08:32 PM)
Consider the excellence of the photos Grace worked on that were rejected. In particular the two page Galliano spread that looked like a Waterhouse painting. They were masterpieces! Grace is an artist and like great artists before her is subject to moods and tantrums. I'm grateful you acknowledged that editing has everything to do with how people appear in this film. It was edited in such a way to present Anna Wintour in the best possible light; it's hard to put a halo above her head without tarnishing a few angels along the way. Is there a person in this world who hasn't groused to colleagues about some aspect of their job? Grace was perhaps brutally honest but I admired her lack of artificiality; you could not say this about her less vocal colleagues. If gender makes a difference, why crucify Grace over behavior that males equally imitate? If you're giving Anna a break under those terms, it should apply to Grace, too.
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broadistheway — 15 years ago(December 09, 2010 02:30 PM)
I find it very revealing of both of them how much respect they have towards each other. It was nice to see grace have the balls to confront anna and it was nice to see anna be receptive to someone other than herself
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mnoe — 15 years ago(February 26, 2011 10:36 PM)
Grace was my favorite "character" in the film. I actually came to appreciate her look of
beauty in ruins
as the film went on, and I find it interesting that one of your first criticisms of her is looks-based. (Should Si Newhouse retire from running the Conde Nast publishing empire because he looks more and more like a troll as he ages?)
But less superficially, it was her talent that I admired and which all of her colleagues in the film seem to appreciate. Compare the results of the shoots she supervised with the less inspired shoot in Rome for the cover.
I also appreciated her perspectives and ruminations from a forty-plus-year career, and the fact that she actually was forthright in her opinions. Contrast this with colleagues who said one thing among themselves and another to Anna's face.
I would prefer to work with people who say what they mean, rather than trying so hard to read the boss's moods that they deliberately or not end up undermining and backstabbing their co-workers. But, then, I've never been great at that kind of "office politics" myself, since I always feel that honesty from "the troops" is what makes a company/product stronger, and admire bosses who want to hear actual feedback rather than an endless loop of kiss-ass from yes-men/women.
I also didn't think Grace was "petulant," but rather "fierce" in the fashion sense of the word ready to stand behind her work, generous in her advice to younger colleagues, and even self-deprecating about her strengths and weaknesses.
I found myself wondering what an issue of Vogue would look like with Grace as sole "guest editor."
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emmamaria — 14 years ago(April 07, 2011 09:26 AM)
"bitching"??? You clearly don't know what the word means! She was standing up for her work. All the criticisms Grace made were professional/about difference of professional opinion. She comments on their relationship through 30 years of fashion and working together and if Grace is still Creative Director and sitting next to Anna at fashion shoots after that amount of time, I would think that means that Anna trusts her.
She didn't like her photo's from the 20's shoot being rejected because she differs in opinion with Wintour on artistic merit. Not because she's petty and is cross her kindergarten picture wasn't chosen by the teacher to put on the wall.
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firstwinsgop — 14 years ago(August 20, 2011 07:32 PM)
Not really sure what you are saying, but Grace didn't do the original Color Block Shoot. Edward did that one towards the end of the film we learn than Anna has rejected it. Grace was given the responsibility of the re-shoot.