People still don't get it
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chrischeet — 16 years ago(February 07, 2010 12:36 AM)
That's because Conan forced him out back in 2004, Jay NEVER wanted to leave. Conan's reps went to NBC in 2004 and said listen were getting offers from other networks and if you want to keep Conan you need to give him the Tonight Show in 2009. I'm no Conan hater either, I watch both the Jay Leno Show and the Tonight Show everyday when it was on. If you want to blame someone blame NBC not Jay Leno.
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candace76 — 16 years ago(February 07, 2010 04:09 AM)
Well, um, this is kind of my point- if he was being forced out why did he stick around for YEARS and then go along with this stupid primetime idea??? If someone treats you badly, you WALK. Leno's response to everything seems to be: I did it because NBC executives asked me to. Leno is the ultimate corporate puppet.
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chrischeet — 16 years ago(February 07, 2010 04:40 AM)
Leno has already said a few times already that each time he was relieved of a show he requested to be relieved of his contract. Like with the Jay Leno Show the affiliates weren't happy so they said OK you gotta get something else on at 10pm. So Jay Leno was like OK can you relieve me of my contract now? NBC says NO we want to keep you. At the end of the day if you want to blame someone, blame NBC not Leno. Again why does Leno have to give in to every single whim of Conan? Why should he have to sacrifice his own happiness to please Conan?
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simbob4000 — 16 years ago(February 09, 2010 06:30 AM)
Conan didn't force Leno out, hell, NBC didn't even force Leno out. NBC didn't want Conan going anywhere, so they went to Leno and told him they wanted to give Conan "The Tonight Show" to keep him around. Leno could have said no. He could have said f^ck you, my shows number one, and if you want me to go then let me go and do what I do for someone that wants mebut he didn't, he rolled over and said ok, and went along with what NBC wanted.
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simbob4000 — 16 years ago(February 10, 2010 12:37 AM)
splice1234:
Jay's contract had run out. NBC decided not to renew it. Jay wasn't given a choice in the situation. He never could have said "no." You're very misinformed
No splice1234, you're the misinformed one, in fact you're so misinformed it's funnyonly because you're telling me how misinformed I am. For one thing NBC
did
renew Leno's contract, it's why, you know, he's still on NBC. As for the other thing, well, Leno's contract wasn't up at that time (2004), Conan's was. Leno's wasn't going to be up until 2009, so Leno could have said no, I'm not going to walk away. Now at that point NBC could have forced Leno out, or maybe Conan would have went to ABC or somethingwho knows? But that didn't happen because Leno said he would step down back in 2004, which made way for NBC to make a new deal with Conan to stay and get The Tonight Show.
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a_l_i_e_n — 15 years ago(February 19, 2011 12:04 AM)
Conan was given an opportunity to keep his job, and he walked.
Even a year later there are still those who will maintain with great indignation that Conan did not walk, but was just outright fired. Personally, I doubt
NBC
was all that interested in keeping Conan by the time they asked him to move to midnight, but, yeah, it's pretty clear it was Conan's decision to part company with "The Tonight Show".