Disappointingly xenophobic
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lunamuna — 13 years ago(February 24, 2013 12:27 PM)
@haruuj, who said it was a race? You may have noticed I used the word xenophobic in my post title, which means a fear of things that are foreign.
@quetzalcoatl2012, When did I say the bad guys were Turkish? if you had bothered to read my post then you would realise I never said that and I directly addressed the fact that they were Albanian. And if you couldn't muster the patience to read my short post then I wonder how you must ever manage to complete a book or an article, which would explain why you come across as ignorant. -
lunamuna — 13 years ago(March 15, 2013 03:09 PM)
I never said Islam was a race. I said the movie was racist in its portrail of Turkish people and Muslims. I think you are really being pedantic here. I know people these days love saying 'Islam is not a race' as if that makes it okay to be bigoted towards them. Islam may not be a race, but the roots of islamophobia lie within racism. The fear of the other. The fear of someone who looks different, acts different, worships differently than you. If you REALLY want to get pedantic then we can say that there is actually, scientifically no such thing as race. Race is a totally outdated concept considering what we now understand about human genetics and ancestry. It is impossible to draw a line between people of different ethnicities and say 'you are this race and you are that race'. We are all mixed race so to speak. Does that mean that racism, as we understand it, does not exist? Of course not. Racism is well and truly alive today. Using Islam-bashing as a shield against accusations of racism is a fallacy. We all know what you (not you specifically, I mean racist people generally) are getting at. They are afraid of something they don't understand. All things considered, the most correct term for this is 'xenophobia' which is why I used it in the title.
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Sturmknecht — 12 years ago(May 14, 2013 06:46 AM)
Good post and good reply to the ignorant proles above.
I see it pretty much the same way you do: the reinforcement of the token evil guys as Muslims felt very superficial to me too, and in my eyes served purely the goal of spoon-feeding the bigoted prejudices of the a big part of the general western audience.
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lunamuna — 13 years ago(February 17, 2013 03:16 AM)
If they were Eastern Orthodox then why were they praying like Muslims? Why did they have the crescent moon and star tattoo? And I looked it up on wikipedia, Albania is predominantly Muslim with a large Christian minority
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lunamuna — 13 years ago(February 17, 2013 01:51 PM)
How do you know? Do you actually know any Muslims? Have you ever even met a Muslim? And I don't mean the guy who runs your local shop/takeaway. Have you ever had a Muslim work colleague, acquaintance, friend? I doubt it.
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lunamuna — 13 years ago(February 21, 2013 01:14 AM)
How do you know I haven't read it? Have you been watching me my whole life? What a ridiculous presumption to make. I have read it in fact, and in truth it's a mixed bag with some morally questionable chapters and some very morally sound chapters as well. The same way the Bible is. In fact, the most horrific stuff is in the Bible, which if you have read, I'm sure you will agree. So, do you consider every Christian who believes what the Bible says to be a terrible person too? Because I don't know what country you live in but if its the States then there sure is of a lot of Christians there. If you're in Europe then I'm sure you have at least one friend who considers themselves Christian. Do you hate them too?
I just find it incredibly ignorant the way it's the new fashion in the West to consider Muslims to be a separate entity from the human race incapable of rational thought simply because they are Muslim. There's as many different kinds of Muslims as there are fish in the sea. And truth be told, the social history of Christianity (the Crusades, the Nazis, the British Empire etc.) and Atheism (Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc.) has proved to be unrivalled in brutality.
My personal philosophy is to take every individual as they are and judge them by their own words and actions, not those of their supposed religion, group, culture, ethnicity etc. I think to do otherwise is irrational and betrays a lack of intellect. Hating one group on the basis of something intangible like religion is what allows things like the holocaust to happen. Breaking down people into mere categories dehumanises them and this is the first step towards something very very bad. -
vestdennis — 12 years ago(August 09, 2013 09:49 PM)
Once again we have someone who brings up the history of Christianity hundreds of years ago & uses that to bash Christians today. Yes, the Crusades were bloody & violent but there was violence & warring done on both sides (Muslim & Christian).
But if you compare the modern history of Islam we see a renewal of violence & attacks on the Western world. Not by all, but enough that over two dozen embassies had to be closed down recently. Christians, who were once welcomed in Iraq, Egypt & Turkey are now having their churches burned down, the women attacked & they are fleeing for their lives.