How exactly is this MacGyver?
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HellboundHero — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 12:08 PM)
I HATE all these "REBOOTS"! Here I thought that it was going to have the original Pilot with a "NEW" Actor.
I'm not sure what you're saying. The original pilot of this show that was scrapped because of the negative reaction? -
HellboundHero — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 12:02 PM)
I don't remember MacGyver ever saying he was a "lone wolf" on the original show. He may have done things on his own, but that didn't mean he refused help or assistance when it was offered. True, the original wasn't a team show, but I do remember him sort of teaming up with the guest stars or Pete.
I didn't like Jack Dalton being rewritten as a former CIA agent who defends MacGyver by killing, so in this area, I agree with you. Jack Dalton should have been the civilian roommate, whether Justin Hires played him or someone else.
I don't think of Pete as a father figure. It seems more like Mac and Pete were friends to me and if anything, Harry was his father figure.
MacGyver used duct tape to tape Vinnie Jones' mouth.
Ok, fair enough, MacGyver was more physical this time around but there was still plenty of improvising/MacGyvering. I don't think Mac holding his own in a fight is sacrilege, as he is a government agent who goes on dangerous missions. You'd think someone like that would have a little bit of hand-to-hand training.
As I saw it, the pilot episode was pretty close to a season 1 episode of the original, other than the team aspect. Keeping in mind that in season 1, Mac wasn't quite established as an inoffensive boyscout who would never drink, curse, kill, or womanize. -
johnfuqua — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 03:36 PM)
I suspected from the ads that this version would disappoint and was right.
The original MacGyver was more serious and thoughtful and did not try to be a semi-super-hero.
He did not try to lead or join a government/quasi-government or even private team to fix the wrongs of the world. He did not need a secret identity or life nor a roommate for relief. The original had some girl friends but romance was not a substantial partthis version looks like it will lead that way. The original could have serious moments that were not out of place for the characterI doubt this one will.
This MacGyver is playing in the mold of Scorpion, Chuck and Limitlessthe latter the worst of all playing a buffoon.
Chuck and Scorpion had no 'original' to compare with so could survive longer. Limitless did and could not have continued in violent mode of the movie but having a doofus and government agent blew its chances.
Off hand, I think 'Elementary' is one series that pulls off a sequel well.
Bottom line, lucky to last one season. -
triggerman-59568 — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 05:27 PM)
Burn notice is kind of inspired by Macgyver. And the new Macgyver is more like a copycat of Burn notice.
The Macgyver that I know, works alone. Always thinking, always calm and he hates gun. The show starts slow to tell a story and you get 1 climax event.
The new Mac is more of a shoot em up run and gun action show -
seethe42 — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 11:19 PM)
I think you hit the nail on the head. Burn Notice was very much a modern MacGyver and it worked. This really is more like weak attempt at Burn Notice, down to his sidekick being an older Ex-CIA agent. Granted in BN it was only a decade age difference, not 20+ years. It's almost like they said, let's remake Burn Notice but use the characters and premise of MacGyver. The internal voice dialogue that was such a big part of both MacGyver and Burn Notice fails big time in this, what little there is anyways.
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michinine — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 09:03 PM)
This where the 80ties. The A-Team had lots of guns and machine pistols, and nobody ever died.
McGyver had lots of luck with his adversaries. They always stand besides a door or over a bridge or he has an fire extinguisher ready. The stories where written in way hey didn't needed to use guns. Sometimes the bad guys where just bad in protecting their assets and he could shove them all in a room with a hard locked door
But this is 2016. If you are in a failed country trying to defuse a bomb and four guys with weapons enter your room, then you need a sidekick that kills them all.
They let the partner do the dirty work. When Mac got a gun, he face slapped the guy with it (and they had the banter about it). So if he can he doesn't kill someone, but he had no problems with the driver dying in the explosion of his own bomb.
Yes, the pilot was mediocre, simplistic and you saw all the plot points 10 miles away. -
clark2005 — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 10:37 PM)
Grew up with the original, but I also loved more recent shows like Burn Notice. So I was hoping for something with the heart of the original, but with an updated 2016 feel. But after watching the pilot I saw nothing that resembled that fun, energizing show I grew up with. There was no spark or energy that made MacGyver, well MacGyver. Why use the name of a classic loved series from the 80's/90's, and not embrace what made that show great.
I just hope this dies fast, and the makers of the new A-Team series don't bother bastardizing another classic 80's TV show. -
clark2005 — 9 years ago(September 25, 2016 10:39 AM)
Because there are much better shows on the air now and even the reruns of the original show, which I've seen dozens of time, are way more entertaining then this first episode was.
Why watch something that has no rhythm, that as far as I could see, was missing the whole spark of its namesake? -