Why is this movie praised for its relentlessly sexist theme?
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padzok — 10 years ago(July 06, 2015 11:58 AM)
I can understand why someone wouldn't see the movie the way you have.
Oh, I can understand that people are not going to admit that their reasons for liking the movie are the ones that I mention.
But whatever gloss people try to put on it, they see the character as "becoming a true woman" (or somesuch) when she finds a man to give her a bed.
And how many people keep mentioning the baby scene as being "brilliant" (or somesuch) for showing how defective she previously was? -
BettyAnneCartwell — 10 years ago(July 09, 2015 12:58 PM)
I 100% agree. Anyone who doesn't realize the glaringly obvious sexist undertones of the film isn't seeing through the surface of it. Abandoning the child should be the biggest eye opener, the clearest metaphor for how the filmmakers see certain women. Thank you, Padzoc, for sharing your conclusions.
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Kazak23 — 10 years ago(July 09, 2015 09:00 PM)
I think you missed the point of the baby scene entirely. I don't think the scene was intended to convey "look at the horrible woman who doesn't care about babies" at all. I was to intended to convey that she was another thing entirely, not human. The baby didn't even register on her radar because she's not one of us.
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padzok — 10 years ago(August 01, 2015 11:47 PM)
I think you missed the point of the baby scene entirely. I don't think the scene was intended to convey "look at the horrible woman who doesn't care about babies" at all. I was to intended to convey that she was another thing entirely, not human. The baby didn't even register on her radar because she's not one of us.
The makers made a deliberate choice to use a baby.
Do you dispute that the point of that scene was to convey the "wrongness" of the character's actions, before she chose the "right" path? -
jadbama — 10 years ago(November 23, 2015 09:47 PM)
Yes. The scene was stressing the point that it, the alien, was not human. Any human would have helped that baby. The baby served no purpose to the alien so it ignored the baby.
The scene was reinforced when it, the alien, sent the motorcycle riding alien back to retrieve the jacket and the baby was ignored again. -
stirling-1 — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 01:55 AM)
I saw the baby scene as a way of showing the indifference the aliens have to humankind. To see it as some sort of feminist clich is a bit cheap and simplistic, IMO.
The start of the film showed a similar indifference. She was looking at all males whether they be young, old, black, white etc, as a means to an end. She did not select her victim based on anything more than their isolation or lack of support from friends/family. The friendly chat was nothing more than a means of lowering their defences.
The film to me was showing how a serial killer might select his/her victims. The same was true in the end when the roles were reversed and the logger became the psycotic one with the friendly chat, when all along he was simply a predator just like the alien. -
fillshertease — 10 years ago(July 12, 2015 04:57 AM)
You are right that this movie is completely sexist, but you are wrong in your interpretation of who it is sexist towards. There are no female characters in the movie so obviously there is no sexism towards women. There is, however, an alien who is made to look like a woman so that she can capture men for the purpose of, well, that is never made fully clear but the men are certainly killed. In this movie, as is VERY common nowadays, women are portrayed very positively while men are shown in a horribly negative light. Men are shown to be complete morons - totally incapable of suppressing their sexual urges and making rational decisions - who will jump into a van because there's a pretty girl in it and follow her blindly to their doom. It's ridiculous, revolting, and horribly sexist towards men. Television shows, movies, and advertisements now constantly show women to be strong, intelligent, decision making adults, while men are portrayed as weak and stupid adolescents who must be controlled by their superior female partners.
You're right that there is a relentlessly sexist theme. It is hugely sexist towards men. It is a common theme nowadays that we are constantly bombarded with and it must be stopped.
A woman walks through a park late at night and gets raped. When a senior public official says that women should not walk through parks alone at night - which would seem completely bl00dy obvious but apparently isn't to some people - he is lambasted for saying that women are inviting rape, even though that is NOTHING at all like what he actually said. We are told that men must control themselves and that a woman should be able to walk down the street naked, bending over to pick up change as often as she likes, and that any man in the vicinity shouldn't even look in her direction. Next thing though we have a movie like this in which men just leap into a van and follow a woman to their death when she starts undressing, the very clear implication being that men would be incapable of suppressing their sexual desires and using their intellects in that situation - obviously hot women regularly pick up ugly guys in their car and take them home for immediate, no questions asked sex, so there's nothing suspicious going on - and yet no one bats an eyelid and points out that men aren't just animals with no self control; as we're told every time a woman gets raped after walking alone at night. This movie is, as a result, completely and utterly sexist towards men
But wait there's more!
Next thing a man actually DOES try to rape the alien, so now it's not just implied that men are incapable of control and are basically just sexually driven animals, it's now being stated very clearly; just in case you missed it earlier. As if that wasn't bad enough though, we now have people like you turning around and saying that this movie is sexist towards
women
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UNBELIEVABLE!
Are you a troll, or a moron, or are you just deliberately obtuse?
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tinasparklesau — 10 years ago(July 20, 2015 02:22 AM)
I can't believe how racist this movie was actually. Scarlett didn't hook up with a single black guy - wtf? Their meat isn't good enough for these aliens? And then there's the metaphorical 'white dudes walking into BLACKness to die'? And then omfg Scarlett the evil alien is really secretly black under her white skin, which makes that white honky want to kill her!
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taticat — 10 years ago(July 29, 2015 05:08 PM)
WTH is wrong with you?!? This movie was CLEARLY racist, but it was racist against Caucasians. Who does she kill? White men. Who does she try to live amongst, until she is forced to acknowledge that her alien inferiority (that had been superiority up to when she started empathising with White men, indicating Caucasian empathy is a flaw) leaves her unsuitable? White men. All the Caucasian men are portrayed as addled horndogs.
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jbaker1-2 — 3 years ago(December 17, 2022 06:04 PM)
taticat, look up 'sarcasm' in your dictionary…
Perhaps you should do the same…
There are 8.2 billion people in the world. 8.19 billion of them have never heard of and don't give a fuck about Charlie Kirk. Get over it.
