I feel like watching the good ones this weekend. I mean, just Alien and Aliens.
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Dazed — 5 years ago(September 10, 2020 06:56 AM)
I've never understood the hate for 3 either, seems to be about Newt and Hicks dying and how that somehow renders Aliens pointless. I love it, however admittedly it makes little sense of you don't watch the Assembly cut.
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SpringheelJack1837 — 5 years ago(September 11, 2020 03:07 AM)
It’s because Alien 3 didn’t cater to children and idiots the way that Aliens did. Alien and Alien 3 took chances whereas Aliens was the “safest”, most mainstream of the three - to children that would make it the only good Alien movie.
Aliens is an awesome spectacle, but at the same time I ****ing hate how ‘Hollywood’ it is. The characters are all formulaic and dull and I think it’s the only one if the first three where I get bored during almost every dialogue scene…. almost.
But yeah.. -Alien 10/10 -Aliens 9/10 -Alien 3 (AC) 9/10 -
Dazed — 5 years ago(September 11, 2020 06:24 AM)
The characters are all formulaic and dull
It either set or made good use of the archetypes for this kind of action film, very James Cameron. I'm still a huge fan of the film.
I love all the great Brit actors in A3, the creeping fear of Ripley stuck on a prison planet with murderers and rapists and their resentment of her disrupting their equilibrium. I also don't understand the criticism of the cgi, it was 1992 nearly 30 years ago ffs!
I enjoyed just about all of them in varying degrees. Resurrection is silly but extremely entertaining and it has Brad Douriff which raises the level of insanity. I could live without the whole Call storyline mind you.
Alien:Covenant was the only one I found truly awful, Ridley wimped out on continuing his Prometheus plot and wiped out the Engineers to give us another Alien. A shocking waste of the David 8 character too.
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Chronic_Johnson — 5 years ago(September 11, 2020 06:32 AM)
I didn't mind them killing off Newt and Hicks. It was a bold move. What I don't like about Alien 3 is that everything has a brown tinge to it, the characters aren't memorable or interesting, we're back to the one Alien formula and it doesn't do anything new with the creature or lore (other than the fact that it was birthed from an ox/dog this time), and the special effects used for the creature were also horrendous. Not in a good way. There's hardly any suspense to this film, and the action is subpar.
I still enjoy the film well enough if I'm sitting through the first 4 films, which I probably do once every year or so. But it's easily the worst of the first 4, imo. -
Dazed — 5 years ago(September 11, 2020 06:53 AM)
I think each of the films bring something different to the table.
Isn't A3 the first time we see the creature on 4 legs? Maybe that's what you meant though.
I'd definitely disagree about it being worse than 4. I actually hated 4 when I first saw it! Ripley's magical return was hard to swallow. It grew on me though.
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Chronic_Johnson — 5 years ago(September 11, 2020 07:01 AM)
Well, I mean, the aliens were crawling on all 4 legs in Aliens. Maybe not as fast. Seems like a minor difference to me.
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Évariste — 5 years ago(September 10, 2020 06:00 PM)
It's been a while since I last watched it in any form. The assembly cut is the one with the ox, right?
I tried to like it. I always thought the CGI was terrible but I recently learned most of it is not CGI at all and it looks like that for some other reason.
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Évariste — 5 years ago(September 11, 2020 01:32 PM)
But I'm not bad mouthing the movie. I don't like it, that's all. In any case,
Alien 3
was the last serious Alien movie before it all went to sh$t. As I said before, I really tried to like it. It brought back that sense of powerlessness of people before the alien creature and the sense of isolation.
Here, I found the piece of information I wanted.
The Xeno looks CGI but it's actually a mixture of practical effects and chroma keying. I remember it always looked fake, even back when the movie was released.
So, yeah, the special effects aren't that special. I also don't like the plot or the characters. Can you name one character from
Alien 3
besides Ripley? Also the rape attempt scene put Ripley in the position of being a damsel in distress. After she single-handedly killed an alien queen in the last movie? Seriously? That scene breaks the character and is completely unnecessary. OK, she was in a prison full of rapists but why was that chosen as the setting for the story in the first place?
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Margo — 5 years ago(September 11, 2020 02:10 PM)
I like that reviewers set up. Otherwise, I have nothing else to say about Alien³. I enjoyed the movie a lot despite whatever flaws it had. Most people have their reasons for hating anything. Lol
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SpringheelJack1837 — 5 years ago(September 11, 2020 03:12 AM)
God damn Alien: Resurrection
, but it’s still good dumb fun and a lot better than the AvP movies
I’ve got a bluray box set of the first 4 movies as well, I’m eagerly awaiting a 4K release of them all.
Also heard that they’re actually going to continue with the Prometheus storyline after saying it wasn’t gonna’ happen. One more movie to look forward to.
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 