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    dbentley666 β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 07:57 PM)

    If Men Could Menstruate
    A white minority of the world has spent centuries conning us into thinking that a white skin makes people superior - even though the only thing it really does is make them more subject to ultraviolet rays and to wrinkles. Male human beings have built whole cultures around the idea that penis envy is "natural" to women - though having such an unprotected organ might be said to make men vulnerable, and the power to give birth makes womb envy at least as logical.
    In short, the characteristics of the powerful, whatever they may be, are thought to be better than the characteristics of the powerless - and logic has nothing to do with it.
    What would happen, for instance, if suddenly, magically, men could menstruate and women could not?
    The answer is clear - menstruation would become an enviable, boast-worthy, masculine event:
    Men would brag about how long and how much.
    Boys would mark the onset of menses, that longed-for proof of manhood, with religious ritual and stag parties.
    Congress would fund a National Institute of Dysmenorrhea to help stamp out monthly discomforts.
    Sanitary supplies would be federally funded and free. (Of course, some men would still pay for the prestige of commercial brands such as John Wayne Tampons, Muhammad Ali's Rope-a-dope Pads, Joe Namath Jock Shields - "For Those Light Bachelor Days," and Robert "Baretta" Blake Maxi-Pads.)
    Military men, right-wing politicians, and religious fundamentalists would cite menstruation ("men-struation") as proof that only men could serve in the Army ("you have to give blood to take blood"), occupy political office ("can women be aggressive without that steadfast cycle governed by the planet Mars?"), be priest and ministers ("how could a woman give her blood for our sins?") or rabbis ("without the monthly loss of impurities, women remain unclean").
    Male radicals, left-wing politicians, mystics, however, would insist that women are equal, just different, and that any woman could enter their ranks if she were willing to self-inflict a major wound every month ("you MUST give blood for the revolution"), recognize the preeminence of menstrual issues, or subordinate her selfness to all men in their Cycle of Enlightenment. Street guys would brag ("I'm a three pad man") or answer praise from a buddy ("Man, you lookin' good!") by giving fives and saying, "Yeah, man, I'm on the rag!" TV shows would treat the subject at length. ("Happy Days": Richie and Potsie try to convince Fonzie that he is still "The Fonz," though he has missed two periods in a row.) So would newspapers. (SHARK SCARE THREATENS MENSTRUATING MEN. JUDGE CITES MONTHLY STRESS IN PARDONING RAPIST.) And movies. (Newman and Redford in "Blood Brothers"!)
    Men would convince women that intercourse was more pleasurable at "that time of the month." Lesbians would be said to fear blood and therefore life itself - though probably only because they needed a good menstruating man.
    Of course, male intellectuals would offer the most moral and logical arguments. How could a woman master any discipline that demanded a sense of time, space, mathematics, or measurement, for instance, without that in-built gift for measuring the cycles of the moon and planets - and thus for measuring anything at all? In the rarefied fields of philosophy and religion, could women compensate for missing the rhythm of the universe? Or for their lack of symbolic death-and-resurrection every month?
    Liberal males in every field would try to be kind: the fact that "these people" have no gift for measuring life or connecting to the universe, the liberals would explain, should be punishment enough.
    And how would women be trained to react? One can imagine traditional women agreeing to all arguments with a staunch and smiling masochism. ("The ERA would force housewives to wound themselves every month": Phyllis Schlafly. "Your husband's blood is as sacred as that of Jesus - and so sexy, too!": Marabel Morgan.) Reformers and Queen Bees would try to imitate men, and pretend to have a monthly cycle. All feminists would explain endlessly that men, too, needed to be liberated from the false idea of Martian aggressiveness, just as women needed to escape the bonds of menses envy. Radical feminist would add that the oppression of the nonmenstrual was the pattern for all other oppressions ("Vampires were our first freedom fighters!") Cultural feminists would develop a bloodless imagery in art and literature. Socialist feminists would insist that only under capitalism would men be able to monopolize menstrual blood . . . .
    In fact, if men could menstruate, the power justifications could probably go on forever.
    If we let them.

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      Sophievirus β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 08:04 PM)

      thanks for this.
      suck it.

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        𝐸𝓇𝒾𝒸𝒢𝑅𝑒𝓃𝑒—𝒫𝓇𝒾𝒸𝑒 βœ¨πŸ’«πŸ’œπŸ’«βœ¨ β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 08:12 PM)

        Bentley needs to be protected at all costs.
        "You had me at Elk Tartare"
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          Erica's brother β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 08:55 PM)

          There you are, sexy.

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            𝐸𝓇𝒾𝒸𝒢𝑅𝑒𝓃𝑒—𝒫𝓇𝒾𝒸𝑒 βœ¨πŸ’«πŸ’œπŸ’«βœ¨ β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 08:15 PM)

            Thank you for this. It made my day.
            "You had me at Elk Tartare"
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              dbentley666 β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 09:00 PM)

              This is, of course, by Gloria Steinem (Stain 'em?). If only I could write like that…

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                Bee β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 09:26 PM)

                Still good
                We need to continuously post this stuff here, just so people get the vibe of the board

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                  Sophievirus β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 09:32 PM)

                  suck it.

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                      dbentley666 β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 10:00 PM)

                      I am sufficiently conceited that I never need to take credit for other people's work.

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                          Sophievirus β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 10:32 PM)

                          but some people here were like β€œyasss” thinking that you did
                          not me tho. i knew of this text before.
                          smartass.
                          suck it.

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                              Sophievirus β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 10:53 PM)

                              πŸ–•πŸ˜…πŸ–•
                              suck it.

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                                  Platonic_Caveman β€” 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 03:44 AM)

                                  Curious that everyone sees Solanas as crazy while Steinem is taken seriously. If Steinem had shot Warhol instead, we'd be discussing Solanas's rant right now.
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                                    dbentley666 β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 10:34 PM)

                                    I think everyone knew it wasn't me, but were too polite to say: Bentley, you ****ing plagiarist! Fess up, that was Steinem!

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                                      Platonic_Caveman β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 09:53 PM)

                                      Why don't you just cut off your balls and get it over with?
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                                        dbentley666 β€” 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 09:59 PM)

                                        Do you find Steinem's piece emasculating?

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                                          Platonic_Caveman β€” 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 03:38 AM)

                                          No, because I never let castrating women of that ilk anywhere near my prized possessions - my balls! But any man who believes that tripe? He may as well be a eunuch or a homosexual prison bitch. No woman would want him.
                                          At first I thought you were the OP's author. I'm heartened to learn you did not write that misandrist rant yourself. You should have added a disclaimer.
                                          This is the problem with Steinem's brand of feminism. She's trying to fit the ancient battle of the sexes into a modern Marxist dynamic. That doesn't work.
                                          Even in my most fascist right wing phases, I still revere Karl Marx. He thoroughly explained history as no man before him. And his analysis works today even as global corporatism smugly announces the death of Communism.
                                          Class warfare, between the capitalist, the nobility, the upper castes on one hand versus the worker and peasant on the other explains all of history from the first agriculturists onward. Us, the middle class, the bourgeoisie, the stockholder, blah blah blah are like parasites being kept alive by the wealthy elite.
                                          Marxist analysis can be applied to race as well. These are group dynamics. If we want to talk about the tyranny of white people, we can even apply that to mixed raced societies like Mexico, Brazil or the West Indies, where the lighter the skin, the more European blood one has, the higher they are on the ladder of economic wealth and power in those societies.
                                          But you cannot apply a Marxist analysis of class or race to the conflict between genders. This is all rooted in biology. And I'm not saying that males have not used their biology to subjugate women. I'm saying that biology and natural design make it impossible to compare the binary gender dynamic to class warfare as Steinem tries to do.
                                          Males are bigger and stronger than females. They are never incapacitated by pregnancy and the rearing of infants. Men stand to pee and women are more vulnerable because they squat. This is all very rudimentary stuff.
                                          Long story short, gender conflict is biological and natural. Class and race conflict is a social dynamic. Second wave feminism, though useful for political organization, is bereft of any real philosophical foundation.
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