Watership Down is obscure? How far we have fallen.
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dbentley666 — 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 04:30 PM)
Have you noticed what a small genre
Watership Down
belongs to? The genre of animal fables that are also political satires? I can only think of Orwell's
Animal Farm
as a predecessor, though I suppose Aesop's Fables might also count. Growing up,
The Wind in the Willows
was my all-time favourite book, and I'd now (in hindsight) interpret it as a book about the conservative middle-class (especially Badger as a sort of aristocrat) who are laughing at the nouveau riche (Toad). But it certainly isn't a political satire (the way Swift's
Gulliver's Travels
is, especially the section on the Houyhnhnms). Same thing holds for C.S. Lewis's Narnia books, which I absolutely loved but which, I now realize, are subtly Christian and ethnocentric propaganda. -
𝐸𝓇𝒾𝒸𝒶𝑅𝑒𝓃𝑒—𝒫𝓇𝒾𝒸𝑒
— 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 05:02 PM)Great points all around especially about C.S Lewis. The man was a gifted writer but the bulk of it is Christian propaganda and most of it not subtle. The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe is literally the book of Matthew transmuted and watered down for Children to read.
It did inspire my love of Turkish delight so something positive did come of me reading it.
"You had me at Elk Tartare"
-Erin Wotherspoon -
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— 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 06:00 PM)dbentley666 said...
Me too! I hadn't tasted it before reading The Lion, The Witch and the W, so I actually went out and bought some. Delicious! Do you know you can get a chocolate bar called Big Turk? Very yummy!
It’s fantastic. I ordered some for Christmas too.
"You had me at Elk Tartare"
-Erin Wotherspoon -
dbentley666 — 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 06:02 PM)
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said...
It’s fantastic. I ordered some for Christmas too.
Is it very kinky of me to admit I found the White Witch a bit of a turn-on? I was half-hoping for some bestial sex when Aslan jumped her. Lewis would be turning in his grave (to hide his hard-on, of course). -
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— 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 06:09 PM)dbentley666 said...
Is it very kinky of me to admit I found the White Witch a bit of a turn-on? I was half-hoping for some bestial sex when Aslan jumped her. Lewis would be turning in his grave (to hide his hard-on, of course).
The white witch is a great villain but just so derivative of Grimm’s fairy tale villain archetypes. The relentless powerful and beautiful witch with dominion over a kingdom and magic is overdone in fiction. But I get what Lewis was going for with her.
He needed to write a Satanic figure to temp his Judas (Edmund) . Tilda Swinton was perfect playing her in the film.
"You had me at Elk Tartare"
-Erin Wotherspoon -
Cerridwen — 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 05:36 PM)
If you like Lewis, you should read his
Preface to Paradise Lost
. I disagree with his arguments in defense of Milton's depictions of Satan/God (especially when viewed within the context of Milton's politics), but he certainly does the best job of justifying the ways of Milton to men.
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dbentley666 — 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 05:45 PM)
Cerridwen said...
If you like Lewis, you should read his
Preface to Paradise Lost
. I disagree with his arguments in defense of Milton's depictions of Satan/God (especially when viewed within the context of Milton's politics), but he certainly does the best job of justifying the ways of Milton to men.
I'd say Lewis is maybe the best Milton critic of all time. He and Eliot got into it a few times over Milton, and Lewis came off pretty well. -
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— 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 06:01 PM)Cerridwen said...
If you like Lewis, you should read his
Preface to Paradise Lost
. I disagree with his arguments in defense of Milton's depictions of Satan/God (especially when viewed within the context of Milton's politics), but he certainly does the best job of justifying the ways of Milton to men.
I’ll look into this!
"You had me at Elk Tartare"
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 03:04 AM)
I think he was in love with Bucky the twink.
But I must emphasize again, "YouMightBeRabbitYouMight"? That is one of the most annoying user names I've ever seen online.
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