Finally, Morris is pwning Gameboy!
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 21, 2020 06:04 PM)
Pffffffft. Nobody pwned me. People can have different opinions and both express them without one being "pwned".
And first, I do not believe in genetic superiority of any race or peoples. It was an unfortunate mix up of words. And if you don't believe me look at any argument I've ever had on the topic where I say Europe is culturally superior but it has nothing to do with genetics. I defy anyone to find a thread where I support genetic superiority of any race. If I did I'd have to go with East Asians since they score higher on IQ tests than whites.
Morris always falls back from a debate anyway when he gets cornered. He'll just say I didn't understand his post and refuse to argue any further. Lol. In fact, my good buddy Russell agrees with Morris on these issues more than I do. Russell is conservative and a Trump supporter. But that doesn't stop us from being friends. I don't gauge friends by their politics.
As for Jacky pawning me, huh? We had a good convo and she thanked me for clarifying my position though we disagreed. That's not "pwnage".
What this all boils down to is you don't believe I can say my 2019 Maserati GranTurismo
just kidding
is superior to a rickshaw. The point is the West has far excelled the rest the world not only in technology but also in philosophy and literature. The West is superior. And it has nothing to do with genetics. It's culture.
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dbentley666 — 5 years ago(June 21, 2020 06:17 PM)
Dude, your argument, such as it is, is full of holes. Nobody "mistakes" the word "genetically" for the word "cultural." Even Goebbels knew that. The fact that you had to back away from the genetic argument is pwnage in itself. Morris wins that round. Jacky just came in and jumped on your head while you were out. Actually Jacky was very nice, as you point out. But she's nice. She pwned, and then made it look like she was okay with your non-explanation.
I probably know more about Western culture and literature than anyone here, and I think it is ridiculous to claim that the West is superior to any other culture in any respect. The world currently spends about 1917 billion on armaments (the US is the single biggest manufacturer of such armaments, and it is the single biggest supplier to the Middle East). America is still the only country in the world to use nuclear weapons against humans. So the West is responsible for more destruction and potential destruction than any non-Western society ever. Western civilization, and the science and technology it celebrates, has brought us to the edge of disaster. It's a xenophobic and genocidal culture. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 21, 2020 06:46 PM)
Again, you can't find anywhere that I've said any race is genetically superior other than one typo. If I believed it, I'd defend it. But I don't. If you're gonna argue with me on that point you're tilting at windmills.
Jacky also agreed with me that Classical civilization is superior. Splain that!
You're bringing up ethical arguments why the West is not superior. I'm talking about technology, philosophy, literature. Again, the airplane is superior to a rickshaw. A computer is superior to an abacus. Existentialism is superior to Confucianism. What other culture even competes with Shakespeare? The West is superior. Sorry, that's the truth you cultural relativists can't prove wrong.
If all my detractors have against me is a typo than I've already won at the outset. Debate the real issues and I'm ready.
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dbentley666 — 5 years ago(June 21, 2020 06:56 PM)
But you did say it. It can't be a typo. Nobody replaces a four syllable word with a five syllable word, especially when the latter has a completely different sound and structure.
It doesn't make any difference to me that Jacky thinks classical civilization (if that even means anything) is superior.
I'm saying that the philosophy and literature you seem to value is complicit in the genocide and destruction of the natural world. I've taught existentialism, and it isn't superior to Confucianism. It's just different. No scholar worth his or her salt goes around saying that what they research/teach is "better" than another system that they know nothing about. That's elementary scholarly ethics and caution.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 21, 2020 07:08 PM)
Dude, it wasn't a typo like "you're" for "your". When the topic is superiority of one group of humans over another, the issue is culture versus genetics. I'm on the culture side. I've argued this over and over hundreds of times. Why all a sudden would I make a 180?
My point about Jacky is we had a genuine discussion. She schooled me on nothing. We both respectfully listened to each other.
Morris didn't pwn me. He jumped on a typo and refused to debate the real issue. Existentialism is a more advanced philosophy than Confucianism. It discards beliefs based on tradition. Confucianists crippled women by binding their feet for crying out loud.
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dbentley666 — 5 years ago(June 21, 2020 07:17 PM)
She's right. The history of the West is a history of death and torture for those who opposed the powerful. From the burning of "witches," to the Crusades, to the destruction of Inca and Aztec civilization by the Spaniards, to the genocidal policies of American pioneers….
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 21, 2020 08:13 PM)
Genghis Khan and the Mongols killed nobody, right? They only committed genocide from China to Hungary. The Aztecs plundered their neighbors and committed bloody sacrifices to their gods. The Japanese and the rape of Nanking - I'm sure you've heard of that. This is a human problem, not a Western problem.
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