This technology already exists and there is something like Elysium that already exists. We are dealing with a breakaway
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Elysium
dickmarvel — 12 years ago(December 30, 2013 07:26 PM)
This technology already exists and there is something like Elysium that already exists. We are dealing with a breakaway civilization already. They made their move shortly after WWII. There were all kinds of clues in this film, if you paid attention.
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dickmarvel — 12 years ago(December 30, 2013 07:27 PM)
This technology already exists and there is something like Elysium that already exists. We are dealing with a breakaway civilization already. They made their move shortly after WWII. There were all kinds of clues in this film, if you paid attention.
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stevenhunt007 — 12 years ago(January 04, 2014 02:37 PM)
In terms of diagnosing, most of the technology exists.
Software is being developed and MRIs can now basically tell the physician irregular parts of the body and list differential diagnosis. EKGs will capture an image of the heart and list the current cardiac rythem and identify any arrythemias present.
As a nurse, I use this technology on a daily basis. The trick in the future is to make a single machine do all of these things at once. Combine the MRI and the EKG and laboratory diagnostics.
In terms of treating, its unlikely without the use of materials. Using certain electrical voltage systems (applied by electrodes to the body) and radiation its possible to force the body to produce more of a specific type of cell (like electrodes applied to deep wounds can cause the wound to heal faster by stimulating the growth of fibroblast cells and enhancing collagen synthesis), but generally some exogenous substance is needed to heal a body of disease (i.e. drugs).
And its also important not to forget psychological illness!! This is not even well understood now, its hard to imagine a computer being able to solve these problems! -
noopnumbat — 12 years ago(January 05, 2014 08:43 PM)
To anyone ruling out the possibility of such a device because of such issues as processing power, ability to diagnose all known illnesses, real-time manipulation of atoms, you are having what is known as a failure of imagination. All these things are theoretically possible and if humanity can contain to thrive, all these things will come to be. Such abilities may be beyond us today, but there is no physical reason why they cannot be achieved, and the desirability of such technology means it is almost certain to be developed unless other medical methods make it redundant.
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kaiser100 — 12 years ago(January 26, 2014 08:53 PM)
We have certain technologies that are basically Med-Bay ancestors right nowI used one. You hook yourself up to a machine that diagnoses various ailments based on changes in your heartbeat and uses electromagnetic frequencies to heal them. It can shrink tumours, improve blood flow, rebuild cartilage, settle various nervous disorders, etc. It all sounds very woo-woo but it's real, and I'm very skeptical of such things. The machine I used has been in development for 18 years, so I imagine in another 140 years
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kaiser100 — 12 years ago(February 07, 2014 12:14 AM)
Yes I agree, the concept of a med bay in general is not far-fetched, but the reconstruction of flesh or brain matter instantly in empty space is. I don't know why they needed to add that aspect to what would otherwise be quite plausible.
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leonthecleaner-1 — 12 years ago(February 10, 2014 06:25 AM)
lol I loved that scene, it was very chaotic and traumatic IMO.
Btw what about life extension? I read that they were saying if you are 40 or less, etc right now, you will live forever. Because by the time you get to 100, you will be able to live to 160, by the time you are 160, you will be able to get to 250, then 400, then 600, then 1000, and so on.
Seems pretty reasonable.
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kaiser100 — 12 years ago(March 19, 2014 12:43 AM)
I have read up on life extension as part of my interest in cutting-edge medicine (I have some difficult health problems that have been helped by very recent developments), and well, the weird thing about watching this movie was I knew it wasn't totally out of the question that Kruger could be 180 years old, or that I could be 170. Certainly many of us under 40 will live to be very old by present standards, 100 will be a commonplace lifespan by 2050 or so.
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uscmd — 11 years ago(May 02, 2014 01:53 PM)
I'd say yes. At the point where, say in star trek, where people are dematerialized and rematerialed, it wouldn't seem that huge a leap, to rematerialize a new healed organ or a nonfractured bone.
From where medicine is todayits a long long ways off. But just think where medicine was in 1900 or 1800, the advance in technology has been awe inspiring. Too bad more didn't trickle down to the V.A. -
kaiser100 — 11 years ago(August 21, 2014 02:40 AM)
Regardless of the plausibility of the Med-Bay, most of the people who are pessimistic about the future of medicine don't know much about the past. Only 200 years ago we still didn't know germs caused disease, thought bleeding and leeches were the solution to most health problems and the only hospitals were on the battlefield. Nowhospital dramas make up about 50% of television.
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scenoid — 11 years ago(May 03, 2014 01:50 PM)
Possibly but the liability is way too high. Take for example the child in this movie with acute lymphoblastic leukemia. The ALL may be "cured" but the implications in "reatomizing" the child may have future repercussions that were unforeseen.
"When there's no way out, you find a deeper way in." -
leonthecleaner-1 — 11 years ago(May 11, 2014 04:50 PM)
Now they say they are able to reverse ageing in mice. I think stopping ageing is one thing but reversing can really achieve most people to be biologically immortal.
When you are a young adult, you don't seem to get sick easily and when you do it doesn't affect you as much. I think ageing does most of the damage before any disease sets in. -
TTWoodman — 11 years ago(May 15, 2014 04:00 PM)
The tech also appears similar in function to the Guald sarcophagus.
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Sarcophagus -
eolloe — 11 years ago(May 15, 2014 09:04 PM)
Yes, theoretically it will be possible. As will diagnostic handheld scanners and teleporters, a la Star Trek.
Just consider a 3D printer.
The level of sophistication seen in the machines depicted in the film won't be available in the lifetime of anyone who is alive in 2013 (assuming maximum human lifespan is still 112 years 112 years from now). But these technologies will be available eventually.
That assumes, of course, we aren't wiped out by climate change or nuclear (or germ warfare) holocaust before then.