Up to how many kidnappers are we ok to kill, to save one innocent life?
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Oleander2010 — 11 years ago(July 14, 2014 06:05 PM)
No, not really, no projection here. I only read what you wrote. Your response was unnecessary for the situation, let alone rude- it's as simple as that. Perhaps you are "overcompensating" for your own insecurities and attacking others as a result.
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CGSailor — 11 years ago(July 14, 2014 06:45 PM)
Your response was unnecessary for the situation
You mean like your attacks upon my person talking about my insecurities and such?
So two wrongs make a right?
The OP was making some very bad assumptions, obviously based upon liberal ideology. I put him in his place and others have agreed as well.
YOU come along and attack me for it. If what I did was wrong in your eyes, your doing the same is not right.
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bubblenator — 11 years ago(July 14, 2014 08:17 PM)
So can Coast Guard Sailor go to ANY boards and/or ANY thread without ALIENATING himself from other posters with his rude, hostile and down right attacking other posters who don't have any military experience? If somebody asks a basic military question that most people would know doesn't mean you have to reply to the post but you just can't help yourself to try show off your "knowledge" like a big boy
So I bet Coast Guard Sailor thinks that kaymarie2010 (a 7 year member woman!) is ANOTHER sock puppet account of mine or that other guy. Even she thinks that
you are "overcompensating" for your own insecurities and attacking others as a result.
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Oleander2010 — 11 years ago(July 17, 2014 09:02 AM)
The OP was making some very bad assumptions, obviously based upon liberal ideology.
What assumptions?
Could you point out the bad assumptions? It's possible that I missed them. This is the OP's entire post.
Had this thought, because I myself didn't flinch at 3 unsavoury dudes being shot to save an American captain/husband/dad. But surely there must be a limit - can we snipe away 10 of them? A hundred? Thousands?
Does a $10 million demand and a threat of a murder automatically render a civilian open to undisputed execution by the army?
Just admit that you saw an opportunity to be rude and you took it. The pretenses your giving off are a bit of a stretch.
I put him in his place and others have agreed.
You called him/her ignorant for [accidentally?] using the word "army." Yep, you sure put them in their place.
Whatever, this is pointless. Please keep up the good fight; the darkest and deepest depths of IMDb are probably in need of your "telling off."
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Imdb11168 — 11 years ago(August 04, 2014 11:14 AM)
As soon as you threaten the life of another in the course of a criminal activity your life is forfeit.
CG Sailor, you have an irritated attitude about "liberal whites giving into issues regarding colored people "Am i right?
But what about Whites exploiting colored people today ? Google the Enrica Lexie incident, in this case the Italians were guilty of murder, but they seem to be getting away.
The point is that - one side you have a wretchedly poor Somali who was indulging in criminal activity to make a quick buck, maybe to get what - milk for his kid ? Still, he is wrong, and punishment HAD to be given. Then one other side you have 2 trigger happy men who should have been executed by now, but they will certainly get away scot free because they are WHITE ( no other word is better )
When the powerful and the rich, weather its a white man like the Italian Marines, or a brown man like me in a poor country, may be able to get away with some clout, i just feel sad for the way life deals its lessons to the less fortunate. If you realized this, you wouldn't be so aggressive towards liberals
I'm a liberal in some ways too. I'm a rich man in a poor country, and i wonder if i would have had the same moral, ethical standards if my kid was starving ?
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CGSailor — 11 years ago(August 04, 2014 04:50 PM)
The only person introducing race into the equation is you. In the statement of mine you quoted aboveI don't give a sh!t what color a person's skin is. Or what country he/she comes from.
If a white guy picks up a weapon and threatens an innocent for the commission of a crime, his life is forfeit.
It really REALLY pisses me off when asshats like you try to twist it into something racial and insinuate by it that I am a white racist somehow.
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Imdb11168 — 11 years ago(August 04, 2014 10:43 PM)
I was mainly referring to your attitude towards liberals with racial issues in the background. I even agree with part of what you say. All I'm adding is that balance your right wing angst with a little bit of left wing humanity.
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CGSailor — 11 years ago(August 05, 2014 05:09 AM)
I was mainly referring to your attitude towards liberals with racial issues in the background.
I have a problem with Racists regardless of political leanings or color.
Some of the biggest racists in my country right now ARE black themselves.
Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, Farakhan, Kanye, etc.
Then there are your white Skinheads and KKK idiots.
I hate ALL racism regardless of white vs Black or Black vs white or Red vs yellow or WTF ever.
And I hate Liberals.
Liberals are the downfall of America, a rotting from within. They believe their warped and twisted political ideology IS reality rather than the twisted fantasy it is in reality. They hate facts, they will stoop to any means to get their way, Ends do justify the means for them.
And besides Liberals are the biggest group of racists in America.
Just look at their opposition to Voter ID Laws.
They oppose it on the grounds that requiring an ID for voting limits minority races from voting.
HOW SO!?!?!
The very Idea it would is IN ITSELF racist on their part. It must presume that Minorities are to stupid to be able to go get an ID.
The real reason they are against it is so that Illegals looking for free Liberal backed handouts will vote Democrat illegally because they are not citizens.
ON the one side you have COMMON SENSE and INTELLIGENCE
Conservatives want Voter ID to insure ONLY US Citizens with the right to vote are voting, regardless of election outcome.
On the Other you have criminal negligence and lies for the seeking of power
Liberals want the suborn the elections with fraudulent votes from illegals in the promise of free sh!t in order to gain power and fraudulently win votes. Voter ID would hinder that.
And they will accuse Conservatives of Racism to do so even though their very tactic and claim is racist itself.
All I'm adding is that balance your right wing angst with a little bit of left wing humanity.
And another perfect example of why I hate Liberals. Assuming they have a monopoly on humanity and that Conservatives don't have any.
It's just another farking Liberal Lie.
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Imdb11168 — 11 years ago(August 05, 2014 05:39 AM)
If you are so upset that Liberals fight for justice for the weak, then you should also be upset that in World Politics, the First World Nations are dominating and oppressing the weak.
For example come back to the movie and the thread started by the OP.
In this case, 3 pirates were shot dead to save the life of an innocent American,and you cheer for it, but you don't seem to care a damn when 2 Italian criminals belonging to the Italian Navy commit murder in Indian waters, or when Pashtun Wedding celebrations are bombed by US drones etc etc etc
That's why liberals are there, however wrong they are, they are much needed to balance equally wrong people like you.
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sfinch78938 — 11 years ago(July 20, 2014 06:40 AM)
i think 3 is to many just because you're american doesn't make your life any more valuable then theirs they had a tough life and only did what they did to survive a life is a life no one should be thought of less than just because of their upbringings. this doesn't apply to every life though
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annlevtex — 11 years ago(July 22, 2014 07:52 PM)
Under the circumstances they had little choice but to kill those three guys. Because for all they knew they were about to kill Phillips any second. The gun had gone off by his head, they were stringing him up with ropes. They knew that. What were they supposed to do? Wait for that to happen?
The pirates were the ones threatening his life, not the other way around.
I think the movie tried to show that they were in desperate circumstances and were only human. We saw that through Phillip's perspective, especially with regard to the kid and the leader. But the Navy had a job to do and that was to save the life of an American citizen who had been taken hostage and was being threatened with death by automatic rifle.
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KingCobra686 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 07:13 PM)
Having a tough life isnt an excuse to put others in danger and hijack commercial vessels.
Life isnt going to be fair. You have to make do with what you get. Part of that is realizing that if you beep up, other people are going to take action against you. If you kidnap someone under the protection of the US Navy, what do you expect to happen from that?
