One annoying plot hole.
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Ikari9 — 13 years ago(July 10, 2012 06:35 PM)
The girl at the end offered herself as trade for her sister and(presumably) daniel. Instead, the creature just tossed the fetus and took the other sister anyway. When the police are discussing it the next day, there's no mention of finding the fetus. The creature gave it as trade, so it wouldn't take it back. That would go against everything else prior in the movie that discussed how it accepts trades.
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ashleigh0107 — 13 years ago(July 15, 2012 08:43 AM)
The monster wouldn't have taken the fetus back in a fair trade But this thing didn't really trade all that fairly as far as I could tell. Maybe since the sister ran away the creature considered the trade void and then took both the sister and the fetus back to that other world. Because if the fetus was there, they wouldn't have been talking about how they hoped the two of them were somewhere just being happy. If the police had known about the fetus they would have considered the pregnant sister to be just a missing persons case but a possible homicide and would have been all over that direction. But I think the creature to the fetus back bc the sister tried to run and not follow thru with the trade, unfair as it was.
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infestorOfSouls — 13 years ago(September 09, 2012 04:25 PM)
i agree with @ashleigh0107. the insect offered a deal with the fetus but that chick freaked out and voided the dealand well, the ramifications of voiding a deal with the insect is apparently quite severe
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psy_chick — 13 years ago(September 14, 2012 11:00 AM)
I got the feeling that you have to be continuously trading with the creature to keep your loved one. Walter's son brings the creature multiple "trades" in the black bags, and it's implied he was the one who stole the jewelry that ended up in the tunnel. Walter is "returned" twice, once right after the burglaries and again after his son leaves the bags/animals. So from there, I just assumed you have to keep giving the creature "trades" every few days to keep your loved one with you, and that's why it took Daniel back after a couple of days.
As for why it took Callie, I just assumed the creature was being clever. She never said explicitly what/who she wanted to trade for, and I think it exploited that fact to cause extra suffering for her sister. -
psy_chick — 13 years ago(September 17, 2012 08:56 PM)
Yea, it still leaves that plot hole. I suppose you could fill that one by arguing that you have to trade every day, Daniel was home for two days, so when it took him back after the second day it took Trish as a sort of back-payment for the second day? More likely, they just thought it was more exciting and wanted to have an excuse to show a dead fetus (lol).
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BrewedinHolland5 — 13 years ago(October 13, 2012 09:07 AM)
Didn't Walter's son warn against trading with 'it'?
Perhaps he had tried trading (stolen jewelry) to no avail, and it was Walter that placed those items on Callie's doorstep sort of furthering his attempt to trade with her to contact the son. The trash bags he later brought, like the one containing the dog, and given what was found in the contents of the husband's stomach, were offered as a source of substance for the abducted?
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psy_chick — 13 years ago(October 15, 2012 07:29 PM)
Yea, that's all possible. But going with my theory, Walter's son would have warned them against it because he knew the danger of having to constantly offer new trades. Because if I remember the order correctly: Walter's son leaves the jewelry, Walter appears to Callie, Callie leaves the food in the tunnel the next day (intended for Walter) and Walter's son tells her not to leave it there, the jewelry is given to Callie (presumably from the troll in exchange for the food), Callie puts the jewelry back in the tunnel (which is interpreted as a trade by the troll), and then Daniel comes home.
Sorry if those aren't in the right order, it's been a month or two since I've seen the movie!
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dont_b_so_BBC — 13 years ago(July 18, 2012 03:28 AM)
I don't see it as a plot-hole that the police never found the fetus, because any number of things could have happened between the trade and the police discovering that Callie was missingmaybe picked up by wild birds/animals?
A plot-hole is an inconsistency (hence "hole") between 2 connecting/connected scenes in the movies e.g. if the police actually saw the fetus and then act as if they never saw it
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Jazmyneliza — 13 years ago(November 01, 2012 04:04 PM)
After reading all the replies I've come up with an alternative motive.
Perhaps Callies demand for a trade was not appreciated by the troll, & to show her that not only is she in no position to demand anything but also to note that what is and isn't a sufficient trade is determined by the troll itself, it returns the fetus as basically a "yeah well, beep you" and then takes both Callie & the fetus to the Underneath..
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Meats_Of_Evil — 13 years ago(November 02, 2012 10:42 PM)
Damn, just saw this and I didn't know that thing was a fetus, I figured it was a head, it was kind of blurry and I couldn't make out the form, but a fetus is more gruesome and would make more sense since the sister was pregnant. Still, I thought this movie was pretty good and it gave me quite a few good scares without having to resort to loud noises, which is excellent in my book.
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JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies — 13 years ago(November 03, 2012 04:53 PM)
I like how you just make up your own rules, your own story, pretend that the film must be following them, and then say that it's a plot hole when that's not the case.
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