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hollywood have failed to get it right time n again!!!

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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Margin Call


    sanjay_kn — 10 years ago(July 11, 2015 11:59 AM)

    this is one subject that is beyond them. the numbering and the schemes are too complicated to capture in a single film. trading floors are chaotic and rarely things are secret. Actually it is one of the most openest systems around. It is not just buy and sell. There is massive socio,geological, psychological factors along with complicated financial models are there in the place to suit combination of these factors! the movies have just tried to present a snippets of drama here and there. they have been unable to capture the method to the madness.
    may be a guy like nolan could get this one right. I cant think of any director pulling this one as a magnum opus!

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      yusef-ghanima — 10 years ago(August 17, 2015 02:21 PM)

      geological!! nolan can't get his underwear right.
      i mostly will not be able to answer your reply, since marissa mayer hacked my email, no notification

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        goosh69 — 10 years ago(January 09, 2016 11:07 AM)

        uhno. Read "Too Big Too Fail." Or the Big Short. The MBS market and related OTC derivatives markets were SUPER opaque.
        Defender of the weak, and enemy of the weak minded.

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          yesanything — 9 years ago(July 15, 2016 05:53 PM)

          Agree on
          The Big Short
          I thought that film was excellent
          the coins in the jar are for charity,
          the coins in the tray are for sharing

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            goosh69 — 9 years ago(July 16, 2016 07:07 AM)

            I must have drunk when I posted that. I was talking about the BOOKS Too Big to Fail and the Big Short. Both much better than the movies in terms of EDUCATING non-financial people.
            However, yes, the MOVIE the Big Short was also good in this regard. But the director made it more skewed than the book was.
            Defender of the weak, and enemy of the weak minded.

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              AFriendOfMrWhite — 10 years ago(January 20, 2016 07:47 AM)

              this is one subject that is beyond them. the numbering and the schemes are too complicated to capture in a single film.
              Or perhaps a little too boring to be put on film. Maybe they could make an accurate movie about financial dealings, but would that make for an interesting 2-hours experience?

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                Blubonnet_Spearman — 9 years ago(May 31, 2016 10:04 AM)

                This is a well regarded movie only whined about by Wall Street types who the general public don't really give a damn about

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                  bpollen — 9 years ago(July 21, 2016 01:38 PM)

                  This movie is not about the details of the investments and what went wrong with them. So that would have just bogged down the movie with irrelevant data. The movie is about what people DID with what they learned about the investments and the problems with them.
                  I don't think mortgage-backed securities are traded like stocks. These guys weren't on a regular trading floor @ the NYSE. These are large groups of mortgages packaged as investments that are sold selectively to certain big buyers (fund managers, institutional investment managers, etc.). A regular investor can't buy them. There aren't hordes of investors who CAN buy them. They're marketed not just on a board, but also with sales calls. That's how I THINK that happens.
                  There are also derivative investments related to the mbs packages. Not sure how those are sold.
                  But all of this is irrelevant to this movie. Whereas in The Big Short, the details mattered much more, because much of the movie is the investors trying to figure out why the values of the bad investments were not going down, when they were worthless. And then letting the audience see how that happened.
                  Both excellent, riveting movies.

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