Not a wild Pig
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bigcat20 — 10 years ago(January 29, 2016 11:04 AM)
Discovery has done this since day 1 of this show, bringing in live animals that eventually get killed for the sake of the program. If you remember on an early episode with Dave and Cody a damn porcupine just happened to be out on a winter stroll about 10 yards from Canterbury who just so happened to be looking for food, that was bush, the porcupine had no chance. Also up in Washington state, in the rainforest no less, a damn Turkey, which wouldn't be native to that type of habitat was also ambushed by Canterbury, the turkey had no clue where the hell it even was, if you go back and watch, the turkey looks like it was sedated a little. A lot of the pig kills have been bush too, some of them look like darker colored farm pigs, not actual wild pigs.
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blackknight273 — 10 years ago(March 10, 2016 08:28 PM)
Also up in Washington state, in the rainforest no less, a damn Turkey, which wouldn't be native to that type of habitat was also ambushed by Canterbury, the turkey had no clue where the hell it even was, if you go back and watch, the turkey looks like it was sedated a little.
The were just north of me in the Raft River and the Quinault Indian Reservation. There are turkeys on the SE side of the Olympic Peninsula, but there are none where they filmed.
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blackknight273 — 10 years ago(March 10, 2016 08:23 PM)
Please tell which episode they did this on. Im not saying your wrong, but don't remember seeing anything that obvious before and would like to see it.
S01 E08 Soaked
Dave kills a wild turkey (that was obviously tethered) with a bow and arrow. There are no wild turkeys in the part of the Olympic Peninsula where it was filmed
Cody finds a "steelhead salmon" (its a steelhead btw) that died after spawning in a small pool. Steelhead, unlike salmon usually don't die after spawning, and if you look closely the steelhead had net marks on it meaning it was gillnetted. So in other words it was planted. -
rmontro — 10 years ago(January 29, 2016 11:24 AM)
They run that disclaimer at the beginning of the episodes. I don't know if they still run it, but they used to. How the performers get support, and how the producers may "set up" survival situations so that the performers can demonstrate some skills. In other words, it's all fake. I'm surprised that after all these years, people are still expecting reality in their reality TV. I wouldn't get too wound up about it.
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Arbuckle_T_Boone — 10 years ago(February 02, 2016 11:03 AM)
In other words, it's all fake. I'm surprised that after all these years, people are still expecting reality in their reality TV. I wouldn't get too wound up about it.
I wouldn't say it's all fake just 99% of it.
They actually catch fish although the area they fish is probably scouted ahead of time so they only fish the area that is plentiful.
To be honest, I don't really care about animals being planted. My biggest problem with the show is the "support" they receive from the crew.
It's obvious that they never suffer physical side effects of survival which means they are getting water, food, and probably a bed to sleep in at night with ac/heat. They never look spent after a couple of days of survival like Les Stroud. I could probably look past the water and food if they actually slept in their shelters at night.
You really only need to look at their supply of firewood to know that they aren't staying out there all night. Like Les Stroud says, get the biggest pile of wood you can and then double it because that's what it will take to get through the night. -
grizzledgeezer — 10 years ago(February 02, 2016 11:12 AM)
My biggest problem with the show is the "support" they receive from the crew.
The point of the series is to show survival techniques,
not
to expose the principals to potentially lethal situations. Even if they're getting Big Macs on a regular basis, they're
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TheKrimsonKing — 10 years ago(February 02, 2016 02:44 PM)
The problem I have with them creating this particular situations is this.
The found water, great, it's an important thing to find. However to decide to stop and camp out near that water, basically losing a whole day, is not sound survival. The chances of catching wild game with weapons you made in the woods are extremely minimal. Actually making that decision to stop will most likely result in another day with little or no food and another bad nights sleep, leaving you that much weaker when you go back to trying to walk out.
They made it seem like you just walk out in the woods and kill an animal anytime you want. That is not representative of what you should do in a real survival situation. -
wanton87 — 10 years ago(February 02, 2016 06:06 PM)
The chances of catching wild game with weapons you made in the woods are extremely minimal.
They made it seem like you just walk out in the woods and kill an animal anytime you want.
That's the part that really stood out to me as well. It was as if they decided that morning that they were going to have pork for dinner, and by gum they did! That actually made it seem all the more phony, and gave the viewer a clue that a setup was to follow.
Even going out and scoring an animal like that with a firearm in hand would often present quite a challenge.
As with fishing, there's a reason that it's not called catching. There is often an element of luck involved in the process. -
rickathedj — 10 years ago(February 03, 2016 05:42 PM)
Have you ever experienced severe dehydration? Not the "Boy I'm really thirsty" feeling, but actual dehydration where you get muscle cramps and diminished mental capacity. Not that they actually were because they do deal a lot in simulations. But for the purposes of simulation, they were at that point. I have serious doubts that you know what that condition feels like, or what it takes to remedy it. I do, and I have. They wouldn't be weaker for it, they would be stronger than they would have otherwise been by being fully hydrated.
You keep insisted they wasted a whole day. They did not. They had been on the trail for at least a little while. We don't know exactly how long, but they didn't get up in the morning, walk 50 yards to the water and decide to stay the night. It takes awhile to recuperate from dehydration. Suppose they had been on the trail for 4 hours. They drink their fill, and keep drinking for an hour. That takes them to 5 hours into their day. But that still isn't enough time to properly rehydrate, so they stay and drink for another hour. That takes them to 6 hours into their day. Considering they would want to stop with at least an hour of daylight left, they might only be shortening their day by a couple of hours.
Now it is true that having a successful hunt is a bit iffy, but not out of the question. The pig in the episode struck me as possibly being drugged. The hogs I've encountered in the wild can be rather territorial and may well stand their ground against you. I had one that wouldn't allow me to pass until I bounced a .38 slug off of his skull. But as to food, lets not forget the nuts and potatoes. So even barring the unlikeliness of actually killing a large animal, they did find food.
It also looked like it might have been some variety of javelina as opposed to an actual hog. The wild hogs I've seen tended to be darker, at least the ones in Florida. I saw a javalina in Arizona and it was that tawny color like the animal on the show.
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rickathedj — 10 years ago(February 03, 2016 05:45 PM)
To be honest, I don't really care about animals being planted. My biggest problem with the show is the "support" they receive from the crew.
The fact that they have a crew tells us they aren't in any serious danger. The crew has supplies so the 2 survival guys (and I mean all of them from the beginning of the show) aren't in danger of starving or dying of thirst. I consider it a "dramatic simulation" of survival skills.
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Arbuckle_T_Boone — 10 years ago(February 04, 2016 11:09 AM)
I consider it a "dramatic simulation" of survival skills
I can get behind that I just don't appreciate the blatant dishonesty. For example, last night's episode "Eat or be Eaten" had the narrator state "This is Bill and Grady's first drink of water in over 48 hours". That's a blatant lie. I still like the show for what it is I just don't see the need to lie. Just say something like Joe would say that finding the water was a huge physical and psychological boost for them.
I just don't see the need for them to fake being thirsty and hungry on camera when we know that they are eating and drinking off camera. Just show the survival skills without trying to hone their "acting skills".