CGI fights?
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katarabhumi — 10 years ago(February 13, 2016 12:50 PM)
It's a movie so obviously it's all fake, LOL
But guarantee there is no CGI involved in the fighting, it's all pure skills and athleticism.
Most of the actors, especially the main actors are martial artist who trained nearly all their life. They also know each other for a long time -practice and sparred together- they can fake their fight without making it look fake.
What makes the fighting of this movie are so exceptional is the detail and hard work they put into. The fighting choreography was designed and rehearsed over and over for months (in fact FC for this movie was designed since 2010).. and it took days to shoot each fight segment. Credits goes to director, DOP, and the actors (who did their own fight and stunts) not to the guys on CG department.
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KeinHandyBeiFilmen — 10 years ago(February 13, 2016 01:14 PM)
I know movies are fake, I was talking about fake in terms of special effects / CGI humans / etc.
Would it even be possible to create fight scenes like that with CGI? Scan two people's bodies and let them fight via CGI? -
KeinHandyBeiFilmen — 10 years ago(February 16, 2016 03:52 PM)
Nah, isn't Motion Capture real people doing stuff so videogame characters and animals and monsters in movies do the exact same things?
I mean: scan the actors' bodies and just create the fights entirely on the computer. 100% fake. -
katarabhumi — 10 years ago(February 16, 2016 11:36 PM)
That is what Motion Capture does. The actor's movements are stored in digital data. Once the data is stored, computer can simulate whatever based on the data without the actual actor. You see all this in modern Sport and 3D fighting games. 100% computer simulated, 100% fake.. Just like you want.
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briangcb — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 08:04 PM)
ALL of the fights were completely practical. I think the only time digital effects may have been used were when Rama stabs the guy in the leg and slices him down to the knee and when he smashes the guy's teeth out and stabs the guy in the neck (or when Bowo stabs the guy repeatedly in the chest)
Other than that, all or most of the gunshot wounds, guns firing/shells ejecting, when the guy gets flung off the balcony and snaps his spine; all digital.
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EnglishSummer — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 07:59 AM)
Strings were used in the fights like when Mad Dog gets somersault flipped by Rama in the final fight.
In the martial arts films of the 60s to early 80s, strings and pullies were used to enhance the action seen in screen abd were characterized as Visual Effects.
Computers were introduced to editing props in the 70s and were also added to this category (like Star Wars: A New Hope and Blade Runner).
Then along came CGI which had the ability to change the character as well. So strings even - though still used along with CGI as in The Matrix - were added as a Practical Effect.
Also check out this clip of Bruce Lee vs Donnie Yen.
https://youtu.be/cD8y5nnBu8I
Its all CGI but mimmicks footage, not Motion Capture. Its pretty impressive. We can only hope this would evolve into full blown motion capture on live fighters. Video games use it to an extent like UFC. Even this years Warcraft had great CGI with motion capture. We'll see. -
lorddeseiz — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 01:50 PM)
No its fantastic choreographing and stunt work.
In the last battle you can see it most clearly. The guy that "takes" the hit is already moving its body to make the hit look more forceful. Or when someone gets thrown, the guy being thrown is jumping already before being thrown.
For instance the sequence where mad dog gets grabbed from behind and he kicks his legs forward and then slide them underneath. The guy grabbing him is practicly jumping over him rather then being thrown.
That might not seem as fantastic choreography but it is. Took me several dozen times watching it i started to see how it was done. So on first watch you will miss all those little things.
Still doesnt bring anything down to the skill of the actors. Its amazing acrobatics.
No ro0pes no cgi, just plain bodywork timed to the milli second.
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