When all is said and done…
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Banshee
songod-95003 — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 09:38 PM)
Started season one last week and just watched the finale. Four great seasons of TV I managed to miss when it aired!
Maybe had I watched it when it aired I would share the finale frustrations some here have. No doubt I will hate the GoT finale as it will never live up to expectations so those who hated or deeply disliked all of or just the end of season 4 I can understand their feelings.
Some shows just will not\ cannot end right. Maybe because the writers don't know how to end it ("Lost" comes immediately to mind). Or maybe because some tales are never meant to end. I think "Banshee" fits into the latter group.
The core of the tales characters are still alive, as well as some supporting ones. Job is on his way to NYC with Hood not far behind so the two of them are bound to get into something or more together. Carrie has her home and all seems quiet but tales of her "interruption" of the cartels exchange might come back and haunt her. Even if Kai dies (which seems assured but we did not see him fall) he could have put the word into Senator Nazi's ear that she was the one responsible for everything falling apart.
So there is more mileage to the show should fan fiction (or "American Gothic" get canceled and Starr feels like being Hood again - yes more to it than him, I know) want to carry on.
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mgreen9715 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 05:21 AM)
Or perhaps some people are never satisfied or end up disappointed because it didn't end exactly the way they wanted it to?
Very simple explanation.
All loose ends were tied up and almost every character had the character evolution/development any character on a TV show/movie should. There is a lot of possibility or "mileage" for thousands of the TV shows exist but that doesn't mean they should go on for seasons and seasons to milk the series dry.
I love that it is open ended and there are endless possibilities but I also love that the writers/creator found a perfect time they saw fit to see the original story come to a close.
Lost is a perfect example of people feeling the creators didn't know how to end the show write are just people pissed because it didn't end the way they themselves wanted it to end scene for scene or that it was too confusing for them. -
songod-95003 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 12:58 PM)
After all the mystery and crazy s**t that went on with "Lost"; having it all be a "Jacob's Ladder" dream in the leads minds eye was a cheap 'n easy way out. Yes it certainly explained everything (none of it was real hence it been so surreal - nothing to be confused by or not "get" as you condescendingly suggest)), but it also pissed off people who were "lead by the nose" by the compelling (and it was) story for five or however many seasons it ran. They and wanted more of an end. The island sinking into the ocean would have been more satisfying.
Imagine GoT finally getting to it's ultimate climatic scene when suddenly the camera pans up and up until we are watching a word processor screen and George R. Martin typing the story's denouement; but we never see what is happening. He stops typing, looks into the camera and says, "Buy the books!" I'd laugh out loud but a zillion others would kick their TV's.
"Banshee" had a much more satisfying end than most shows get (the finale ep of season 3 of "Ripper Street" on the BBC, which was supposed to be the end of the show, is another great example of TV closure). -
JumboShrimp787 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 11:21 AM)
I guess one advantage of Banshee ending with a whimper rather than a bang is that there is an infinitesimally small probability that Cinemax could revive it. But I don't think it is going to happen.
The main reason is that I don't think Tropper wants to do it. He has other projects. He was already finding it difficult to write a good storyline beyond the original concept - that was S1 and extended to S2.
A show needs a creative thrust to go on to greater heights. Tropper just got too distracted with his other projects to give Banshee this thrust. So the show went on just on inertia. Some expensive action, explosions in S3 kept the fans distracted from noticing the underlying problem. Then, under budgetary constraints, even that option (explosions, distractions) was not available, so Tropper just ended it - rather than give it his undivided attention.
The characters lost their edge anyway in S4, so I am not sure where the show could hypothetically go from here.
As far as Cinemax, and their execs, it was their decision to starve their most successful show to death in order to fund other projects that mostly misfired, did not find any audience. So reviving Banshee would be an admission of error by these execs. Another reason why Banshee will not come back -
songod-95003 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 12:42 PM)
I would hate for the show to be brought back as there is really nowhere to go with the idea now that every main character has a closure (some good some bad).
Hood has no reason to return to Banshee. Sugar is set for life and has gone who knows where. Job is back in business (with Hood saying he'd meet up with him in NYC after traveling "the scenic route") and Carrie\Anna is in mom mode with Max. The Brotherhood is probably no longer interested in operations in Banshee, Kai is most likely dead (without his ace Burton he seems to be alone with no security. No money now or??), and things have finally settled into a steady normal for the BSD.
Something like Carrie in trouble or dead, or Devon in trouble or dead would bring Hood back but, it's highly doubtful Cinemax would bother since they, as you pointed out, killed the show.
My only question is why
Hood seemingly took none of the money from the army base heist.
It was fun while it lasted. -
JumboShrimp787 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 11:52 AM)
They still have all the key characters alive, so they could come up with a new plot for them. There is plenty of history of the characters that they can tie it into.
What I meant that the characters lost their edge in S4, they were thieves, adrenaline junkies (as Carrie called Hood in S1, which also applied to her). It all disappeared in S4, for somewhat flimsy reasons. At lest Job stayed mostly true to that.
So trying out some heist would be a good starting point. And what better place to rob then the Capital Diamond Company, the place where all their trouble started, where their lost their former lives. So why not get the revenge on life has brought to them, get even.
I can't believe why Tropper did not end Banshee with something like that, instead of ending with Satanists with horns [facepalm] -
songod-95003 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 08:27 PM)
Ending it that way? Budget cuts. Filming another massive attack on a heavily guarded place (no doubt security has been amped in 15 years) would probably have been too expensive.
Plus Carrie was certainly kicking it attacking Proctors operations so she did not lose her edge she just directed it at Kai.
Anyway still coming down. Thought about trying "American Gothic" but don't know if I can accept Starr as someone else just yet! -
mgreen9715 — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 05:04 PM)
What is the point of robbing Capital Diamond? They all had their lives back and Rabbit and his entire gang are almost all likely dead or just gone. Hood's reason wasn't flimsy. After all the beep he had been through his entire life he was bound to snap mentally either way and he was a broken man in S4 which made total sense.
The show needs to be left alone to be amazing as it is.