The ending (Spoiler alert)
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adamf2326 — 13 years ago(October 19, 2012 03:42 AM)
I saw this film at a private showing at the BFI London Film Festival and I thought it was great! I was hooked from the start and thought the story and performances were impressive. (I didn't expect that 'scene' to appear half-way through haha).
Anyways I was wondering how people interoperated the final scene because there was lots of discussions going on about the ending at the festival and I was keen to know what others though. -
SaveMeJeebus — 13 years ago(October 19, 2012 07:57 AM)
You mean this was screened for the press? Or did you see it at one of the three screenings?
The final scene was essentially Sadie letting her in completely. I think it's fair to say she knew the friendship was geniune, despite her now knowing it was initiated by Jane's guilt. -
Daniel_Plainview — 13 years ago(December 09, 2012 04:43 PM)
Hello! Sadie wanted to show her she had a lie as well. And to reveal to the audience that she did, indeed have a daughter, and could forgive Jane because it was more important to have her as a "daughter" than be angry for Jane for her "lies"
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mothnm — 13 years ago(December 30, 2012 01:33 AM)
I didn't find the ending "surprisingly sweet." Sadie's comment that a detour to the cemetary wouldnt be a problem suggests that she doesn't think they will need to get to the airport. She thinks showing Jane that she lied too is to say she didn't trust Jane. Ever. A dealbreaker. Sadie was unpacking before they drove to the airport. Whether they make the best of it or not, they both live crappy lives and hang out with crappy people, including each other, and now they both know it.
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Coaster610 — 12 years ago(April 27, 2013 03:10 PM)
It seemed that Sadie was at first unpacking, but then she stopped. She let it all sink in and decided to move forward instead of getting angry, upset, and vengeful. The money doesn't matter; I think even if the money had all been spent, Jane would still be there for Sadie. They share a bond; Jane sees her as almost a motherly figure, something that she so desires (making the phone call to her mother, wanting her to fly out but her mother refusing) and Sadie sees Jane as a daughter, a daughter she once had. Sadie cared deeply for Jane and she lied that she did not have a daughter; Jane made a mistake as well. And though a thermos filled with money may have started this relationship, it blossomed into something realsomething quite difficult to find in a fast-paced, money-obsessed city like Los Angeles.
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mic7440 — 12 years ago(September 20, 2013 12:19 AM)
What lies? Jane never lied about anything. She went to return the thermos. She made every effort to return the money short of shouting out HEY YOU OLD DINGBAT I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOUR $10,000 BACK. Get it? The old lady never gave her a chance. Even when it was brought up later the old lady was still reluctant to talk about it. Jane did nothing wrong. In fact, she went out of her way to more than make up for the money. She could have done something for herself. But she invested something that money cannot buytime and genuine concern.
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mmarcopolo — 12 years ago(October 22, 2013 08:09 AM)
What lies? Jane never lied about anything. She went to return the thermos. She made every effort to return the money short of shouting out HEY YOU OLD DINGBAT I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOUR $10,000 BACK. Get it? The old lady never gave her a chance. Even when it was brought up later the old lady was still reluctant to talk about it. Jane did nothing wrong. In fact, she went out of her way to more than make up for the money. She could have done something for herself. But she invested something that money cannot buytime and genuine concern.
Actually she tried to give the thermos back but she didn't mention that there was $10k or whatever was left, in the thermos. It's highly more likely that if Jane had told her that she found $10k in the thermos, Sadie would have taken it back as they hadn't started bonding at that point in the movie. She was still mistrustful of most people by this part of the movie. If Jane mentioned it later in the film, then Sadie might have told her to keep it as she saw Jane as a friend. -
Kroyall1962 — 12 years ago(July 22, 2013 01:50 PM)
I suppose the director left it open for interpretation but it seems the lady wanted to let the girl know about her daughter. She had come to trust her despite what the girlfriend told her about the money.
It was done in a messy sort of way because the woman wouldn't necessarily have remembered she left money in the thermos bottle. She was told she had been ripped off but her reaction was odd. If I were her my immediate question would have been HOW did the girl get my money?
We can assume a conversation occurs after the final scene of the film in which they clear the air and either do or don't go to Paris. Either way I think they had formed a bond. -
sundaysoundmatt — 12 years ago(July 22, 2013 10:31 PM)
The way I saw it was similar to other's views. I believe that when Melissa approached Sadie and told her that she "deserved to know the truth", Sadie did not take offense to it. Melissa claimed she wasn't really her friend. But in Sadie's mind, if Jane wasn't a true friend, she would have spent the money on herself instead of trying to fulfill Sadie's dream of going to Paris.
Since Sadie now knew Jane was a real friend, she felt like Jane deserved to know the truth about her daughter. So she let her in.
It was a really powerful scene to me because I felt like it was a revelation between the both of them and a start to
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a mother/daughter relationship. Seeing as in the beginning of the film you see Jane's strained relationship with her mother. At the end of the film, you see Sadie's lack of daughter relationship.
I loved this ending. -
AxeMan — 12 years ago(July 27, 2013 11:36 AM)
I agree with that ending that says they both accepted each other and because she spent the money to fulfill the old bags final dream she went to Paris but 1st needed to come clean about her Daughter. Powerful ending. Made you put all clues together and if you we're not watch closely you would have missed it.
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anne-536 — 12 years ago(October 06, 2013 05:42 AM)
I tend to agree w/ your interpretation of the ending (I guess that's the filmmaker's desire). Sadie knew she had a real friendship in Jane, that Jane was reaching out to really be in her life.
I was lucky enuf to watch this on NetFlix, so had the ability to rewind the ending and pause. I think they wanted us to 'connect' the two minds of the characters by that final scene. -
Mgillock — 12 years ago(July 25, 2013 04:56 PM)
I thought that Sadie showing Jane the grave of her daughter was Sadie's way of letting Jane know how seriously she took their relationship. It was a way for her to steer Jane away if Jane wasn't serious. I also think that, because of Sadie's terrible reaction to loosing James dog showed that she felt incapable of caring for anyone. Her daughter was just a teenager when she died so that would make sense. I think at the cemetery Sadie was more or less saying, "now you know why I am the way I am and I don't need anymore pain in my life so if you are in this then let's be friends"
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tmaj48 — 12 years ago(September 18, 2013 06:28 PM)
Jane seemed like an essentially sweet person who had a soft spot for anyone
who was particularly vulnerable. She rescued the little dog from a shelter; she
was polite to the fans at the porn film convention and was especially nice to
one mentally disabled fan; and she was way too good a friend to Melissa, who
was awful to her and everyone else. She did make an attempt to return the money, which not everyone would be inclined to do, but Sadie's rudeness (and mace assault) made
this so awkward for her that didn't know how to accomplish this. She might have
had plans to spend it on her mother, as she offered to buy her a plane ticket
so the mother could come see her, but the mother brushed her off (I think she
mentioned once that the mother had a problem with pills). She tries in the only
way she can think of to return the moneyby spending as much as she can on
Sadie. She never really loses her guilty conscience; when her boss mistakenly
refers to Sadie as her grandmother, it's not Sadie who corrects him, but Jane,
in a sad, sheepish voice, as if she'd been caught out as an imposter of some kind.
Sadie was so used to awful people and unhappiness that she at first mistrusted
Jane's good intentions. She doesn't know how to respond to nice people like
Jane; she's more used to the kind of rude treatment displayed by the two jerks from her insurance company. Maybe she felt resigned to being treated this way,
as if that was the best she deserved. I thought that maybe she felt that she had failed her
family in some way; her daughter died in 1969 at the age of 18, so she might
have felt that she had been an inadequate mother in some way. Maybe her husband's fatal heart attack two years later had been brought on by their
daughter's death; she couldn't save him, either. So she closed herself off and
told Jane that she'd never had any children. Just when Jane and Sadie's friendship really began to flower, Sadie temporarily lost Jane's dog; right
after that, she pushed Jane away again. Maybe she felt as if she was failing
Jane in the same way she had failed her husbandby losing Jane's "baby,"
Jane would be crushed and turn against her.
By the time Melissa showed up on her doorstep, I think Sadie must have figured
out why Jane was being so kind to her. She did drop a hint or two to Jane that
she had more money than she could spend; she didn't seem to care too much about
spending it anyway. The money wouldn't have brought her much pleasure anyway;
she valued Jane's friendship more (unlike Melissa, who never could appreciate
Jane or anyone else). Just as Jane couldn't find a way to tell Sadie about the
money, Sadie found it hard to tell Jane about her own past, and leading her
to the gravestones was her awkward way of trying to explain it.
I'm not crying, you fool, I'm laughing!
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estamuchacha — 12 years ago(September 20, 2013 02:29 PM)
I just saw this film. What a great movie. My gut interpretation to the final scene was that Sadie wanted to make Jane feel even more guilty by showing her that she had a ful-filling life once, that she is a person who had a family at one time. The look on Jane's face as she walked back to the car clearly showed how bad she felt.
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Dejay — 12 years ago(January 28, 2014 06:56 AM)
Yeah I totally agree with the "letting her in" interpretation, very nice end.
I also think it makes it clear that Jane wasn't just drawn to Sadie out of guild, but because Sadie is a smart women, but is lonely. It's not surprising that Sadie wasn't angry, basically she sold the thermos "as is" and no refunds, so Jane didn't have any legal obligation to feel sorry. She probably remembered that she shooed her away. But Jane is a kind person.
And also I think Sadie knows that Jane needs a friend, if she got friends like Melissa. -
irod — 12 years ago(February 02, 2014 12:19 AM)
The ending has a very simple message from Sadie to Jane:
"It doesn't matter that you're with me for selfish reasons (guilt/selfishness/the money), I'm with you for selfish reasons too (you remind me of my daughter, who was your age when she died). In the end, what matters is that we both gained a friend."