So maybe it's because I'm a gay guy….
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solmaquina — 10 years ago(March 13, 2016 10:11 AM)
Charlie Brooker, the creator and writer of all but one and a half episodes, is married to Konnie Huq. It's a conventional man/woman marriage.
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elcherino — 10 years ago(March 13, 2016 04:53 PM)
Yup you are right, I had a typo, the director of the episode I watched (15MM) Euros Lynn is the one with the male partner. Now I see that Charlie Brooker is the creator. I think he is pretty open to all kinds of people though minorities, men, women, different sexualities I believe.
SPOILERS BELOW
Just wondering about Entire History of You, why did you think Toby Kebbell's character was utterly loathsome? I believe that yes he did act in extreme ways, he was just looking for the truth. His wife lied to him to the point of where their child might not even be his. And of course the affair in their own bed.I think the majorities of husbands would be livid if they knew a friend who had sex tapes of their wife which they could watch over again. So I think he was right to make that guy erase the tapes and not bother their family. Where he went over the line though was probably talking to his wife at the end. He probably should have forgiven her after all there is a kid involved, but before that last conversation I dont think he was completely despicable. Jonas character I agree was. -
solmaquina — 10 years ago(March 14, 2016 07:39 AM)
He acted in extreme ways that weren't justified by his search for "the truth". This is set in a society where the sex-tapes in question are par for the course and it's heavily implied that even Toby is guilty of maintaining memories from previous relationships, himself. Maybe "utterly loathsome" was too strong in his case, but he's, at best, a mixed bag.
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elcherino — 10 years ago(March 15, 2016 03:00 AM)
Yea I saw a bit of OCD and self-destructiveness. What makes the character so interesting is to think how anyone would act in that situation. I mean if I had a friend do that to me and openly mock me I probably wouldn't handle it very well. If he didnt play investigator, who's to say his wife wouldn't continue cheating on him, and Jonas making fun of him (without him knowing it) at every single dinner meeting. Hence the search for the truth, and I think he would have been okay once he got Jonas to delete the video. That way they all go their separate ways and the marriage can be saved or preserved. I think he still could have worked it out with Ffion and raised the child, who's ever it may be.
If however he was doing the same as Jonas (which I didnt catch but it could have been a poor viewing), and kept and rewatched previous relationships for pleasure and would go openly mock others. Then yes I would agree with you utterly loathsome. A man must stand for a principle, but if he disobeys his own principle, well then -
Meldove — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 01:33 PM)
Just wondering about Entire History of You, why did you think Toby Kebbell's character was utterly loathsome? I believe that yes he did act in extreme ways, he was just looking for the truth. His wife lied to him to the point of where their child might not even be his. And of course the affair in their own bed.I think the majorities of husbands would be livid if they knew a friend who had sex tapes of their wife which they could watch over again. So I think he was right to make that guy erase the tapes and not bother their family. Where he went over the line though was probably talking to his wife at the end. He probably should have forgiven her after all there is a kid involved, but before that last conversation I dont think he was completely despicable. Jonas character I agree was.
He did become an obsessed man, however I think his obsession in knowing his wife was lying to him and she was. What started as a week long fling, turned into a six month relationship. It just seemed like lie after lie and then he found out she had sex with him in their bed. They may have been going through a bad time in their marriage, however there is no excuse to bring another to the bed she shares with her husband. What spouse wouldn't be infuriated? The worse part was she lied repeatedly and kept getting caught in her lies. So, yes I consider her pretty despicable and I see him as man that became overly obsessed and saw his world fall apart because of it. To the point that he cut the device out at the end, I think that was the smartest move he made. -
Feigenbaum-attractor — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 08:10 PM)
Personally I saw him as much much worse than she.
I saw her initial lie as her trying to not make him jealous, it's common in new relationships to play down past relationships.
Her subsequent lies I saw as her trying to downplay the whole situation as her husband began to get obsessed. His obsession and subsequent behaviour was way over the top. You have to let the past stay in the past. If she didn't want to tell him then thats her business.
She is of course guilty of cheating but she did say she did that while they were on a break and he had been gone a few days.
On the other hand he stayed up all night replaying the dinner party and getting drunk before going out and assaulting the ex. He should have been locked up imo. -
mimosveta — 9 years ago(May 08, 2016 02:46 PM)
I cannot think of one female character who was wholly sympathetic except for maybe Abi at first and then I guess Jem.
There was literally nothing wrong with Princess Susannah, and F and Gwendolyn Harris were both decent humans and actual characters.
On a side note, which male character was a nice guy?
Anyone who has ever read any spoilers,
knows that
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facherz — 9 years ago(May 13, 2016 09:41 PM)
Why do shows have to reflect society? Well if we put in a gay character, then we have to put in a transgender character, but then we would have to put in a Native American character because everything has to be fair and equal and politically correct.
Why can't it just be a TV show? If there is a gay character in the new season, good, fine, who cares. If there isn't, also who cares. Why does it really matter, it is just a tv show. If you don't like it, don't watch it. -
skillz4realz — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 03:16 AM)
The title of the series is Black Mirror. I take that as it's a dark reflection of what we can be or become. No episode is a happy, fun time. They're all dark representations of our potential future.
So I don't think it's an issue that men or women are presented darkly.