Your guy's thoughts?
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The_Mob_Has_Spoken — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 11:12 PM)
I felt like it was about right. They had no way of foreseeing Caan's character
shooting himself.
Considering that their crimes were misdemeanors and they are juveniles and that repeat offender rapists and murderers are getting the same sentences in American courts these days for way worse crimes, I'd say the penalties for the two kids were about right. But that shot at the end showed that Ethan felt like he got clean away with it.
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setsukokouri — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 12:35 AM)
He may have felt lucky not to get jail time, but I think the smile that was forming on his face was the realization that he got the "views" he wanted and then some. In the end he got far more attention that he could have hoped for. He probably didn't even feel guilty about what happened, considering that from his point of view, he was only meddling in the old guy's life after the old guy meddled in his. Ethan probably thought the experiment was a complete success.
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Kooro77 — 9 years ago(December 24, 2016 03:01 AM)
It's not really a fallacy because he never said the other crimes were unjustly met with light sentences, you added the "unjustly" part. He merely said that worse crimes get that same sentence. From your perspective it is unjustly light but one could argue that sentencing the boys to the same sentences as repeat rapists/murderers would be unjustly harsh. It's not a fallacy to simply compare the sentence of one crime to the sentence of another crime and advocate for a lighter sentence based on that.
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porkchop4 — 9 years ago(December 14, 2016 12:19 PM)
Being minors with clean records went a long way in getting them the sentence that they received. If they had priors, especially if they were similar to their current charge, you can bet that they would have been given an adult sentence. The testimony from the sister/sister in law also probably really helped as she said she saw signs of depression/suicide in him and that was why she was trying to get him in assisted living. The jury would have seen that as a guy on the edge and the two teens being in the wrong place/time to unintentionally push him over the edge.
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mkayboi-1 — 9 years ago(January 18, 2017 11:53 PM)
Yeah, seems pretty unfair.
I was hoping the last scene would be something like Ethan back at home in his room, then suddenly the lights start to flicker, hinting that Grainey was back from the dead to haunt him, but I guess it wouldn't have been in keeping with the world of the film.
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