If he really killed a dog…
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Brody_Dalle — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 10:58 PM)
All you knobs saying that he wouldn't have deserved violent repercussions for poisoning an innocent creature that someone loved as part of their family are probably the same sadists that leave dogs outside to freeze because "they're not people". Yes, I'm aware that dogs are not people, but if the law started treating them as such, then maybe there wouldn't be so many starved, beaten, neglected and abandoned pets in the streets. Viewing domesticated animals as disposable, and their abusers as anything other than evil, sadistic piles of crap makes you no better than them. Shame on you. Also, I don't give a flying beep what you think of me.
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amkatz — 9 years ago(December 21, 2016 06:41 PM)
LOL! I actually agree with you, given that my own dogs are quite precious to me, & what they did to the old man, reckless though it might have been, doesn't amount to actual violence. If he had killed a dog it would have been mild retribution at best.
But I agree with those who say he neither killed the dog nor beat his wife. Those were projections from the teen, more likely attributable to his own father. The old man didn't deserve what befell him. Circumstances, tragedy & his own reaction to it, however, made it difficult for his contemporary neighbors to empathize with him.
That's what made the boys' actions so utterly recklessplaying what was essentially a prank on someone particularly vulnerable to its machinations.
If the more sensible of the two hadn't been a newcomer to the neighborhood he have had a better sense of who the old man was, why he was the way he was & chosen a different target. But of course that wouldn't have suited his partner.
Reminds me of an early 60s potboiler-type film with John Ireland & Joan Crawford in which teen girls call up people at random saying "I saw what you did & I know who you are!", just a prank until they happen to ring a guy who just strangled his wife. -
cinnaspider313 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 08:57 AM)
Right before he gave his wife the bell as a gift he tells her that her garden is holding up great. He treasured everything of hers and didn't want a dog to use it as a restroomI don't blame him and I don't believe he'd ever hurt a dog.
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conchoreb-4 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 12:11 PM)
As much as I love animals, esp dogs, I don't think someone who killed a dog, which is about as scumbag as one can sink,deserves to die for it. Thinking that is definitely a sign you have your priorities askew.
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conchoreb-94579 — 9 years ago(January 10, 2017 07:56 AM)
"askew form what? Yours?"
Oh, say 10,000 years of societal norms, not this "blink of an eye" recent amoral relativism you evidently espouse. And yes everyone "judges" in some wayjust like you're doing with me. -
jpkrunch — 9 years ago(January 10, 2017 08:06 AM)
Really? 10,000 years of societal norms?!?! That is hilarious! Nothing is recent. People throughout your 10,000 year history have been killed for much less than killing a dog.
And yes everyone "judges" in some wayjust like you're doing with me.
Yeah that was my point. People have different moral codes. Just because they are not an exact match to yours does not mean they are askew. Maybe yours are askew.
I would say my memory is not what it used to be. But I don't remember what my memory used to be. -
ebeall-87107 — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 06:46 PM)
I don't believe he killed a dog. Considering the other accusations were baseless, I'd say the dog one was too. I think Grainey was just a lonely and cranky old man who wanted to be left alone. Plenty of people are like that. It doesn't mean you're a terrible person but can be cause for people to speculate about you. Because Grainey was cranky it supported Ethan's account of him so that his friend believed him.
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Stovepipe99 — 9 years ago(January 10, 2017 05:45 PM)
I think Grainey was just a lonely and cranky old man who wanted to be left alone. Plenty of people are like that. It doesn't mean you're a terrible person but can be cause for people to speculate about you. Because Grainey was cranky it supported Ethan's account of him so that his friend believed him.
Agreed.
It's important to note that at the end we learn that his wife died 12 years before the events of the movie. That means that Ethan was about 4 or 5 when it happened and wasn't really around to witness any of the stuff he claims about the man.
The dog-killing thing sounds to me like the kind of rumors that kids make up about creepy neighbors.