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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Arrival


    writeyibo-555-71540 — 9 years ago(February 12, 2017 02:51 PM)

    oh mine, the chinese of the linguistic doctor is sooooo bad, being a chinese myself I can not understand a word!
    please can someone help and tell me what she said.
    It seems that every second hollywood movie always target china if not russia of starting a war, as if we still live in the cold war era. time to grow up.

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      philoj — 9 years ago(February 12, 2017 10:46 PM)

      "In war there are no winners, only widows."
      Philo's Law: To learn from your mistakes, you have to realize you're making mistakes.

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        writeyibo-555-71540 — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 02:52 PM)

        thank you. though i thought she said it was something the general's wife said before she passed away..

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          Spielburger — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 03:41 PM)

          thank you. though i thought she said it was something the general's wife said before she passed away..
          That is correct: "In war there are no winners, only widows."were the dying words of General Shang's wife.
          https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/arrival-chinese-line-ending
          "So I've got bullets, but no gun. That's quite Zen."

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            highway_robbery — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 03:19 AM)

            It seems that every second hollywood movie always target china if not russia of starting a war, as if we still live in the cold war era. time to grow up.
            That stood out to me too, but a podcast interview with the screenwriter justified it a little (think it was "The Q&A With Jeff Goldsmith" if you google it and want a listen!) Through most of the film the only thing we see of the Chinese general, and the actions of China/Russia/Pakistan etc, is via Fox News-style sensationalist reports. The general seems like a war mongering nutjob until Louise meets him, and he's really warm and welcoming. Of course that scene is set later on in (supposedly) peaceful times, but there was something in there about how our perceptions of conflict and the actions of other countries are skewed by how our media selectively reports on and spins it so while it was eye-rolling to have China & Russia portrayed as the "bad guys", there was an intention there for it to be another take on how our experiences, viewpoints, behaviour etc are so influenced by communication and interpretation, especially if filtered through those with a negative agenda. We have no idea what really led China to take the steps it did in the film, only what the CIA and news reports tell us.

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              dporokhniak — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 03:24 PM)

              Why is it eye-rolling to see China & Russia portrayed as militant states? Russia is currently fighting 2 wars one of which is an old fashioned war of aggression against its neighbour with infantry tanks and missiles in use every day. This is being complemented by information and cyber war against all serious players in the West that Moscow cannot buy or otherwise use to its advantage. Russian war planes violate NATO airspace on a regular basis. This has been going on for at least 3 years now.
              Meanwhile China and the U.S. are on a verge of a serious conflict over territories in South China Sea.

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                writeyibo-555-71540 — 9 years ago(February 14, 2017 02:49 PM)

                yeah like the US never invade other countries

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                  jerryrip54 — 9 years ago(February 14, 2017 04:27 AM)

                  Give me a break. Why does it have to be a Fox News-style "sensationalist" report? It seems to me that "news outlets" like CNN and MSNBC are more fake news-type networks than Fox.

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