Are the Russians the bad guys again?
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kgwrote-854-104240 — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 02:03 PM)
Hollywood is owned by companies that have a vested interest in seeing conflict with Russia-or at least encouraging it. Portraying Russians as bad guys has generally been the standard policy (when not Russians then Eurotrash anyway).
Obviously it is getting harder to sell that idea given that it is the Us going around bombing the hell out of countries and creating the greatest refugee migration since WW 2(the end of which BTW owes a lot to Russia).
"Slavery is a good example really. It has been illegal in Sweden since the freaking 1300's. Yet some people appear to think that they can judge me as a white person using the American history of slavery and guilt trip me with it as an argument in debates. Sorry, but what the hell? LOL????????????"
*Excellent point. It is ridiculous that white people are somehow responsible for the actions of a minority hundreds of years ago. The rich and powerful are the ones who created slavery. They made money from it. Then when they were done, the blame gets passed to society at large. Just as we see today. Wall Street and other rich interests profit from globalization and migration. When poor people complain about losing money or healthcare they get called racist. Ooh the irony. -
MafferDragonhand — 9 years ago(September 02, 2016 11:28 AM)
Obviously it is getting harder to sell that idea given that it is the Us going around bombing the hell out of countries
Yeah: al Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, and ISIS poor, peaceful, unfortunate victims of American bombs. No different from Russian invading Georgia and Ukraine! LOL! Moron.
creating the greatest refugee migration since WW 2
Wrong. Iraq was stable for 8 years after the U.S. invasion. The Syrian refugee crisis, ironically, happened largely because America
didn't
get involved until the war had gone on for 3 years. If anything, American politicians have learned America needs to be involved now more than ever to stabilize humanity. So get used to our being involved in international affairs; it will continue throughout your lifetime.
(the end of which BTW owes a lot to Russia).
No. It was American money and American supplies that kept Russia afloat during World War II. But don't take my word for it, see this quote:
"Without American manufacturing, the Allies would have lost the war." - Josef Stalin
In conclusion, please consider killing yourself for being so wildly ignorant of both recent and distant human events. Ignorance such as yours must have a genetic cause, and it shouldn't be allowed to spread via your reproduction. -
slay-er — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 02:30 AM)
Yeah: al Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, and ISIS poor, peaceful, unfortunate victims of American bombs. No different from Russian invading Georgia and Ukraine! LOL! Moron.
Georgia assaulted UN peacekeepers who happened to be Russians. That war lasted just few days. In Ukraine US and EU politicians showed full support for coup, then US made Ukrainian coup government to move tanks against those who disagreed with what took place.
Wrong. Iraq was stable for 8 years after the U.S. invasion. The Syrian refugee crisis, ironically, happened largely because America didn't get involved until the war had gone on for 3 years. If anything, American politicians have learned America needs to be involved now more than ever to stabilize humanity. So get used to our being involved in international affairs; it will continue throughout your lifetime.
High majority of refugees aren't even from Syria. US don't have history of success in all these endeavors in the middle east or elsewhere. They have nothing to show.
No. It was American money and American supplies that kept Russia afloat during World War II. But don't take my word for it, see this quote: "Without American manufacturing, the Allies would have lost the war." - Josef Stalin
False quote. Land lease was no more than 15% but USSR was paying like triple price for that even if they never received what they paid for (if delivering ship was sunk for example). -
MafferDragonhand — 9 years ago(September 02, 2016 11:19 AM)
Movies tend to mirror real life somewhat. As such, any film involving geopolitical issues has to feature Russia as the bad guy, otherwise it would be too fictional even for fiction.
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slay-er — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 02:36 AM)
Yes you can ask their pro Nazi neighbors from Ukraine and Tribaltics (yep they bury their WW2 veterans in Nazi uniforms). And then you have Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan and others who are making a economy Union with Russia.
And then you have US, that stole Mexico's lands, tried to do with Canada but failed, exterminated Indians, enslaved blacks. And of course wars and coups all over the planet US started and sponsored. -
rdoyle29 — 9 years ago(September 28, 2016 07:17 AM)
Threads with a bunch of yahoos wildly complaining about the plot of a movie that they couldn't have seen yet are pretty hilarious. I saw this film a couple of days ago and I can tell you:
- The Russians are not the "bad guys".
- The Americans are not the only people engaged in constructive interaction with the aliens.
- The Chinese choose to pursue a different course of action than the Americans, but it is not presented as "bad" in the context of the film. It's based on a misunderstanding, but an understandable one.
- Given the film's focus on communication and the possibility of misunderstanding, it's a very intelligent way for the plot to pan out.
- Many of you people have WAY too much time on your hands.
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bektaskonca — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 06:25 AM)
get with the program only time a Russian guy was good in American movie was Wanted, it goes like this Mexicans are drug dealers, rapist Ruskies are killers, mafia, Chinese guys are tricky, untrustworthy, Muslims are terrorist so on and so on, i suppose after a 50 years of entertainment business and media brainwashing it works how else this business are still going strong.
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zarathustra2k1 — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 10:48 AM)
and now there's Trump.
The Adventures of The Man With No Penis:
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sebaser — 9 years ago(January 15, 2017 03:04 AM)
And?
Russians are the bad guys on the political scene, the civil war in Ukraine which and annexing of chimea wasnt even to 3 years ago and you think Russia would act any other way?
Same goes for China, a beep up communistic dictatorship.
Us has its flaws, but its not as bad as ether of those communist hellholes.