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So much fuss over 10 seconds? Surely it's a joke?

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    knytrydr — 9 years ago(October 20, 2016 09:43 AM)

    Because that's not who the character is. Gene Roddenbery has said so, George Takei has said so. Takei himself does not like this change.
    Changing the timeline can change your job, your home, your spouse, but it cannot change your sex, or sexual orientation. It doesn't make any sense.

    Star Trek Canon is more of what you'd call guidelines then actual rules!

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      nightwishouge — 9 years ago(October 25, 2016 04:33 PM)

      Changing the timeline can change your job, your home, your spouse, but it cannot change your sex, or sexual orientation. It doesn't make any sense.
      They used the "alternate timeline" excuse to change Ricardo Montalban into Benedict Cumberbatch. You're either on board with the concept or you aren't.

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        kennyamac — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 05:14 AM)

        yeah, with all the internet fuss made about this i was watching out for it turns out he was just met at the 'airport' by his brother with his neice at least thats the way most people could/would/might interpret it no big deal and nothing to get stressed out about(i asked my wife and she thought he was saying hello to a friend or family member at the 'airport'

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          donbizzaro — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 11:59 AM)

          Sulu can blo Scotty on the bridge for all I care, just stop making Spock cry every 20 mins. Now that to me is weird.

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            Syntheticon — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 10:24 PM)

            When I saw this thread, I thought it must have been people complaining about the ridiculous
            beastie boys destroys the aliens while the ship surfs a wave/pipe of fire
            scene but that went longer than 10 seconds so I was curious. Turns out everyone was worried about a completely forgettable family reunion. Move along people.
            hypocrite
            lunatic
            fanatic
            heretic
            It's almost never Lupus

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              redsmurph — 9 years ago(October 17, 2016 01:03 PM)

              It could have been 1 microsecond. It's the fact that he presented himself as a homosexual that people reacted to, not what he did. Human nature.

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                mesaxi — 9 years ago(October 18, 2016 06:50 PM)

                I think the irritation is more about Hollywood's incessant need to wedge these patronizing little social acceptance things into their films that add nothing to the movie and are most often publicity grabs.

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                  knytrydr — 9 years ago(October 20, 2016 09:45 AM)

                  exactly

                  Star Trek Canon is more of what you'd call guidelines then actual rules!

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                    kokumaker — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 04:54 PM)

                    It's not about the amount of screen time it got. It's about the filmmakers fundamentally altering a character who, in 50 years of Star Trek, was never gay. Even George Takei literally pleaded with them to not change his character, and he was disappointed when they did it anyway.

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                      tb-sch — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 12:10 PM)

                      I had the same feeling. While I think that it is a great thing to annoy homophobe morons, this just showed a certain insensibility to the original material.
                      Also they lack recurring new characters beside Scotty's assistant. Why couldn't they come up with a real character with some importance in a future episode. That would have been a much more daring move and would also have helped a franchise which is on the brink of drying out again.

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                        Arseweb — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 06:03 PM)

                        But they haven't fundamentally altered the character, they just made him gay. In every way that has any impact on the story, he's the same Sulu as ever.

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