This movie really disturbed my soul.
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Nightcrawler
thepicturesthatgotsmall — 10 years ago(August 24, 2015 07:38 PM)
This isn't the first time I've watched a movie where the bad guy wins, but this may be the first time I've watched one where the bad guy
completely and utterly
wins, with no mitigating factors. Every evil deed he attempts, he pulls off, and receives no comeuppance whatsoever, minor or otherwise.
I think that's why it left such a bad taste in my mouth. I was expecting to at least see Lou get punched in the face, but nope. He ends the movie on top of the world and untouchable. Gag.
What's the opposite of catharsis? Because that's what I've just been subjected to. -
TxMike — 10 years ago(August 25, 2015 06:12 AM)
Your comments remind me of my reaction to "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles", where the two main characters Neal (Steve Martin) and Del (John Candy) do some incredibly stupid things, and have some very bad things happen to them, while the various "crooks" have all the fun.
But as far as "Nightcrawler" goes, while it is left up to the imagination of each viewer, in my own mind Lou will get his due, he will pay for all his evil deeds, we just don't know when and how.
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wordswork02 — 10 years ago(August 30, 2015 05:12 PM)
It disturbed my soul as well. For me, it's because it didn't end the way that I, as a justice-loving person, thought it should end.
As someone who lived in L.A. for many years AND work in a TV station for a short period of time, I loved looking at the West Coast scenery. The familiarly with how news stations choose stories both appalled and fascinated me. This film was like a luxury car wreck and I couldn't look away.
I was loving this movie until the last 10 minutes. That's when I realized I'd have to relegate it to the list with "The Departed," "Matchpoint," "The Player," and "Crime and Misdemeanors." These are movies I ended up hating because the endings contained no (poetic) justice.
As Lou was crossing the street after leaving the police station, I wanted SO BADLY for him to be struck and killed by a car. I really needed that to happen to be satisfied with this movie. But there's no ambiguity about what happened to Lou - at least not for me. HE GOT AWAY WITH IT - and that sucks. -
mmserrano4 — 10 years ago(January 01, 2016 06:49 PM)
Why does the justice have to be poetic? In The Departed, every corrupt character died. Granted, most every uncorrupted character died too,
but Matt Damon and Jack Nicholson, serving as the antagonists, died, and were brought to justice, Nicholson by Damon, and Damon by Marky Mark. Everyone who deserved it, got it.
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movielover2011 — 10 years ago(September 06, 2015 11:26 AM)
Yes, from the larger perspective it shows the moral decay of society.
It shows just how sociopaths manipulate and how they lack empathy and ethics and only serve their own selfish goals (i.e. Lou). Even worse, it shows how that behaviour is condoned and encouraged by others who have a common goal yet have just enough ethics to not do the things the sociopath is doing yet not enough ethics to try to stop it when it benefits them (i.e. Nina).
I agree, this film definitely leaves a bad taste. The thing that got me through the film is that I was waiting to see how Lou would get his comeuppance, but unfortunately that didn't materialize. -
Gothic_Maniac — 10 years ago(November 16, 2015 04:42 PM)
Exactly. I think the intention of the movie was to give this message, because that's how the media works. Corruption, ambition and bribery rules the world and why should they have made a happy ending and punish the "bad guy", when nothing is being made against those hypocrites in real life..?
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Gun_Murat_Ilban — 10 years ago(December 12, 2015 12:44 PM)
How is Lou a bad guy? He didn't have the obligation to report what he saw to the police, that's his story. He just saw a good opportunity in it. About his partner, he threatened him and tried to take half of Lou's share. They were by no means friends, he didn't have to save him, he's not responsible of his partner's death in any way.
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KingCobra686 — 9 years ago(January 18, 2017 06:15 PM)
How is Lou a bad guy?
-Hurting the security guard at the start of the film
-Stealing watch from security guard
-Stealing a bike
-Stealing cable tv from neighbors
-Cutting brakes on competitors van
-Breaking into house where crime occurred(the one where he messed with the fridge magnets)
-Breaking speed limits and driving recklessly
-Moving bodies at car crash scene
-implied sexual abuse against Nina and coercing her into things
-no respect for privacy of others in vulnerable situations (guy bleeding out in street and dying)
-Not helping the guy in the rich murder house who was still alive
-Withholding information from police
-Setting up the capture of the criminals in a dangerous situation just to cause more dramatic footage
-Putting Rick in danger of getting shot -
hernandez_harold12 — 10 years ago(January 20, 2016 08:45 PM)
In a way it was a happy ending for the bad guy. "An insane person, doesn't KNOW they're insane". Just how a bad guy doesn't know they're bad. It's why an "Evil laugh" always appears corny and fake. This was the "happy ending" of a man very determined to get to the top. He's the main character, had he doe, it wouldn't be a happy ending. That's what's cool about movies, you can root for the bad guy. Your sense in morality doesn't changes, it's a movie doing what it's suppose to do