Why compare Marvel with DC when Marvel is for kids and DC for adults?
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brickfire — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 05:16 PM)
I tell you the movies ignore the TV shows and not the other way around and you answer that DD adressed the battle of NY
Not true.
Here some views about the mcu some here will find enlightening.
by Eddie
I did a full MCU film binge before Civil War, and the last two Phase 2 films actually have subtle AoS connections that apparently went over everyone's heads. Nick Fury got the Helicarrier from "old friends". He's referring to Coulson. Not only do we see that in AoS, Coulson's also the only common friend of Fury and the Avengers that could have possibly hooked him up with one. Ant-Man also reveals to the film audience that Hydra is still around despite being"finished" in Ultron except AoS viewers were already in on that thanks to the S2 finale. They're small connection, but they do exist (Fury's dialogue in particular really couldn't have been referring to anyone else).
by belltown213-0-557076
There was even a little Agent Carter Easter egg shout out to the character Dottie Underwood in Civil War when Bucky told Cap he used to date a red head named Dot back in the 50's.
Infinity War will probably feature a bunch of MCU TV character similar to how the X-Men series just spotlights the main mutants while the rest are there as wall paper to fill out a scene.
and
For the record, most of the issues concerning the TV side of the MCU is mainly with the characters (be it Quake, Coulson, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Misty Knight, Punisher, & now Ghost Rider) crossing over into the movies (Ex: Infinity War), not if the TV/Netflix stuff is actually canon or not. Feige himself said that having the TV characters at some point is inevitable, & it's not like anything in the movies directly contradicts what's on the TV/Netflix shows (or vice versa). Both the TV/Netflix shows & the movies are still in Earth-19999, it's just that Perlmutter is supposedly holding back the characters from being able to cross over into the ensemble films. Hopefully they can work this out by the time the Inhumans movie drops (likely 2021, judging by Feige's recent comments at Comic Con), so they can at least make a slight nod to the Inhumans outside of Attilan.
by Josh Harper
What does Ashley mean when she says "There's no connection between the movie and tv universes"? They are still in the same universe, and even if the references are small they would still make no sense at all if they weren't in the same universe, also Leob and Feige have both acknowledged the films, ABC shows and Netflix shows are all in the MCU (I'm certain of this because I was searching for quotes on the subject recently). Unless she means creatively they are seperate, then yeah, that's completely true.
byJosh Harper
"If you ignore Agents of SHIELD" that's like saying if I ignore the fact that I have a heart then I'm actually dead. Ignoring something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You're right that Agents of SHIELD has much bigger references to the MCU and is very clearly linked with the multiple cameos and guest appearances from movie characters (Lady Sif, Maria Hill, Nick Fury, even Coulson himself), but the Netflix shows do clearly have links, albeit much smaller ones, but we do literally see Stark tower in a picture, The Hulk in a picture, a Levitation in a picture, Hammer Tech weapons, name drops of Stark and Captain America, etc. Whilst they are small, yes, they are still showing us quite clearly that it's the same universe. Leob has confirmed it many times and Feige has said "We want to incorporate the show characters into the movies" meaning even he deems them canon to the MCU.
Cedric House
you don't need to cross in order to know it's in the same world they freaking name drop Tony stark in luke cage
Bajan Samurai
Yeah, it is clearly all in the same universe, it is just people get forgetful of crossover instances (Fury or Lady Sif showing up before) or over assume when news of behind the scenes division of control (cinema properties - TV properties) comes up. The issue is that some people assumed that connected meant all showing up occasionally and all referencing each other, which was never their intent.
It is not easy to get as many movie stars to make a TV appearance (scheduling, location) and it is not easy to synchronize an event from a TV show [that could have been filmed last month or last week and shown today] with an event(s) following it in a film that had wrapped photography a year prior and still comes out after the TV event. It is harder to plan for a movie to reference a TV show's events that it doesn't even know will be happening when they are already filming.
The one they (sort of) pulled off was inferring that Coulson was responsible for Nick Fury acquiring the helicarrier they used in Avengers: AoU, but even that probably required a lot of pre-planning since the AoS probably had not even fully fleshed out how their season was going to go.
by Zaxlon16722
Darragh Tate Thank you! I swear, people keep saying it's not connected, it's -
brickfire — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 05:18 PM)
I tell you the movies ignore the TV shows and not the other way around and you answer that DD adressed the battle of NY
Not true.
Here some views about the mcu some here will find enlightening.
by Eddie
I did a full MCU film binge before Civil War, and the last two Phase 2 films actually have subtle AoS connections that apparently went over everyone's heads. Nick Fury got the Helicarrier from "old friends". He's referring to Coulson. Not only do we see that in AoS, Coulson's also the only common friend of Fury and the Avengers that could have possibly hooked him up with one. Ant-Man also reveals to the film audience that Hydra is still around despite being"finished" in Ultron except AoS viewers were already in on that thanks to the S2 finale. They're small connection, but they do exist (Fury's dialogue in particular really couldn't have been referring to anyone else).
by belltown213-0-557076
There was even a little Agent Carter Easter egg shout out to the character Dottie Underwood in Civil War when Bucky told Cap he used to date a red head named Dot back in the 50's.
Infinity War will probably feature a bunch of MCU TV character similar to how the X-Men series just spotlights the main mutants while the rest are there as wall paper to fill out a scene.
and
For the record, most of the issues concerning the TV side of the MCU is mainly with the characters (be it Quake, Coulson, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Misty Knight, Punisher, & now Ghost Rider) crossing over into the movies (Ex: Infinity War), not if the TV/Netflix stuff is actually canon or not. Feige himself said that having the TV characters at some point is inevitable, & it's not like anything in the movies directly contradicts what's on the TV/Netflix shows (or vice versa). Both the TV/Netflix shows & the movies are still in Earth-19999, it's just that Perlmutter is supposedly holding back the characters from being able to cross over into the ensemble films. Hopefully they can work this out by the time the Inhumans movie drops (likely 2021, judging by Feige's recent comments at Comic Con), so they can at least make a slight nod to the Inhumans outside of Attilan.
by Josh Harper
What does Ashley mean when she says "There's no connection between the movie and tv universes"? They are still in the same universe, and even if the references are small they would still make no sense at all if they weren't in the same universe, also Leob and Feige have both acknowledged the films, ABC shows and Netflix shows are all in the MCU (I'm certain of this because I was searching for quotes on the subject recently). Unless she means creatively they are seperate, then yeah, that's completely true.
byJosh Harper
"If you ignore Agents of SHIELD" that's like saying if I ignore the fact that I have a heart then I'm actually dead. Ignoring something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You're right that Agents of SHIELD has much bigger references to the MCU and is very clearly linked with the multiple cameos and guest appearances from movie characters (Lady Sif, Maria Hill, Nick Fury, even Coulson himself), but the Netflix shows do clearly have links, albeit much smaller ones, but we do literally see Stark tower in a picture, The Hulk in a picture, a Levitation in a picture, Hammer Tech weapons, name drops of Stark and Captain America, etc. Whilst they are small, yes, they are still showing us quite clearly that it's the same universe. Leob has confirmed it many times and Feige has said "We want to incorporate the show characters into the movies" meaning even he deems them canon to the MCU.
Cedric House
you don't need to cross in order to know it's in the same world they freaking name drop Tony stark in luke cage
Bajan Samurai
Yeah, it is clearly all in the same universe, it is just people get forgetful of crossover instances (Fury or Lady Sif showing up before) or over assume when news of behind the scenes division of control (cinema properties - TV properties) comes up. The issue is that some people assumed that connected meant all showing up occasionally and all referencing each other, which was never their intent.
It is not easy to get as many movie stars to make a TV appearance (scheduling, location) and it is not easy to synchronize an event from a TV show [that could have been filmed last month or last week and shown today] with an event(s) following it in a film that had wrapped photography a year prior and still comes out after the TV event. It is harder to plan for a movie to reference a TV show's events that it doesn't even know will be happening when they are already filming.
The one they (sort of) pulled off was inferring that Coulson was responsible for Nick Fury acquiring the helicarrier they used in Avengers: AoU, but even that probably required a lot of pre-planning since the AoS probably had not even fully fleshed out how their season was going to go.
by Zaxlon16722
Darragh Tate Thank you! I swear, people keep saying it's not connected, it's -
Verdugo85 — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 02:24 PM)
You know whats funny? When Agents OF Shield came out yall bashed it, calling it crap, cheesy, kiddie in the same fashion as the MCU movies.
When Daredevil came out yall looked the other way claiming that its not part of the universe and using "it tv" to win an argument. Thats because yall never thought Marvel would ever go that far.. -
Verdugo85 — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 02:42 PM)
And smorking is banned.
http://s24.postimg.org/e7utf0q1x/wait_so_hulk_is_in_captain_america_civil_war_now.jpg?noredir=1
The Avengers drink too
http://cinapse.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/AvPic3-e1430213807480.jpg
By the way smoking will kill you.. -
Verdugo85 — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 04:30 PM)
That's a silly question.
Is it a silly question? Batman and Superman have a back alley brawl and none of them bleed/bruised and you swear DC is for "adults" "mature"?
Cap and Iron Man fight and they bleed/bruise, Bucky's arm was even blasted off.. -
brickfire — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 05:11 PM)
Yeah, the MCU was less kddie bfore Disney bought it.
Not true.
You should do research before you write incorrect non-seanse.
What are some R-rated movies that have been released by Disney?
By Mickey Lin
It really depends on what you mean by Disney.
The Walt Disney Company is a multinational media conglomerate and it has many subsidiaries. Like many multinational conglomerates, Disney uses subsidiaries to cater to different demographics.
The Disney label is associated with kids-friendly fare (ie Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, etc) and so I cant think of any R-rated films that have been released under the Disney label. It would go against their brand and target demographic.
I have listed some of the subsidiaries they own or owned and the R-rated films that were released by them.
Disney, the multinational conglomerate, owned Miramax Films from 19932010.
If you think that Disney had no influence over Miramaxs releases, James B. Stewarts book Disney War documents how Disney then-CEO Michael Eisner demanded that Miramax to drop their investment in Michael Moores controversial documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 and reminded Miramax that Disney had the right to veto any Miramax film if it appeared that its distribution would go against Disneys interests. (For more details, check out Fahrenheit 9/11)
From this perspective, anything released by Miramax and Dimension Films during this time period could technically be considered as released by Disney, the multinational conglomerate. Miramax owned the genre label Dimension Films (specializing in genre films).
Some of the R-rated films that Miramax released during this time period:Quentin Tarantinos Pulp Fiction (1994)
Quentin Tarantinos Kill Bill Volume 1 and Volume 2 (2003-2004)
Peter Jacksons Heavenly Creatures (1994)
Kevin Smiths Clerks (1994)
Gary Felders Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead (1995)
Woody Allens Mighty Aphrodite (1995)
Danny Boyles Trainspotting (1995)
Anthony Minghellas The English Patient (1996)
Gus Van Sants Good Will Hunting (1997)
Lasse Hallstrms The Cider House Rules (1999)
Steven Soderberghs Full Frontal (2002)
Some of the R-rated films that Dimension Films released during this time period:
Robert Rodriguezs From Dusk Till Dawn (1996).
Robert Rodriguezs Sin City (2005)
Robert Rodriguezs The Faculty (1998)
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (1998)
Wes Cravens Scream (1996)
Wes Cravens Scream 2 (1997)
Wes Cravens Scream 3 (2000).
Bad Santa (2003)
The Amityville Horror (2005)
Please note that I didnt list Scream 4 since it was released in 2011, after Disney sold Miramax and Dimension Films to Filmyard Holdings in 2010.
Disney owns Touchstone Pictures since 1984 and Disney uses the Touchstone Pictures label to release films that are mature and darker than the Disney label would allow.
Some of the R-rated films that Touchstone Pictures have released are:Ruthless People (1986)
D.O.A. (1988)
Garry Marshalls Pretty Woman (1990)
When a Man Loves a Woman (1994)
Con Air (1997)
Paul Verhoevens Starship Troopers (1997)
Snake Eyes (1998)
Tony Scotts Enemy of the State (1998)
The list of films is by no way comprehensive but hopefully shows that the Disney conglomerate, through its various subsidiaries and labels, have released plenty of R-rated films from Quentin Tarantinos Kill Bill to Tony Scotts Enemy of the State. Its also interesting to think that the Disney company have in some ways contributed to the release of films with titles like Enemy of the State and Sin City. It sort of put things into perspective about complicated nature of the film industry.
By Carrie Rickey
Among the R-rated movies that Disney's Touchstone subsidiary has released are Pretty Woman, Ruthless People and Outrageous Fortune.
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Touchstone Pictures is a film distribution label of Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures. Previously, it was operated as a active film production banner of The Walt Disney Studios, owned by The Walt Disney Company. Established on Wednesday 15 February 1984 by then-Disney CEO Ron W Miller as Touchstone FIlms. Its releases are typically more adult orientated than those under the Disney label, although the features, Who Framed Roger Rabbit and The Nightmare Before Christmas, which used to be released under the Touchstone banner, are now considered as "Disney" movies (the former featured Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and many other Disney characters, though it also featured characters from other studios while the latter was featured in the Kingdom Hearts series: a Disney/Square Enix video game crossover and the latter was released under Walt Disney Pictures upon its theatrical re-release in 2007). Another Touchstone film Reign of Fire may also considered as a "Disney" movie.
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711px-Miramax Films svg Miramax Films is an American entertainment company known for distributing independent and foreign
