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What is the ONE main reason this movie failed

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    JediJones — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 08:19 AM)

    If you can find any hint of character in these neverending, bloated Marvel team-up movies, I'd like to see it.
    Batman is as fleshed out in this movie as he has ever been.
    Superman is much more than just "reluctant." He's noble, virtuous, romantic, courageous, loyal to name a few.
    Did Black Widow have "character" in Iron Man 2? A supporting role like that or Wonder Woman is not meant to have their entire backstory told in the movie. At least we're getting that full story for WW in a year. Black Widow's backstory has been hodgepodged together in random scenes that provide no cohesive understanding of who she is at all.
    "Pretentious" is a three-syllable word for any thought too big for little minds.

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      terry_hurley — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 08:31 AM)

      No, BW did not have any character in Iron Man 2. I guess that was why the film was called Iron Man 2, and not Iron Man V Black Widow . Character would have been nice, but it was not needed. However, it was needed in The Avengers , and she showed more character in that 5 min scene at the start, than Cavil did in the whole of the movie

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        death-lord — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 05:54 PM)

        I would argue that black widows interaction with Tony in iron man 3 had more life than cavills performance

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          Hobo_War — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 09:04 AM)

          Thor has more character here than anyone in Batman v Superman.
          Uh oh spaghettios - Zack Snyder, David Ayer, Bryan Singer (2016)

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            death-lord — 9 years ago(August 31, 2016 06:05 PM)

            Those are neither demonstrated in film or even actual personality traits for that matter

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              spiceymeatballz2 — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 08:23 PM)

              How about ten reasons?

              1. Its Watchmen 2.0 but dumber and PG-13. The 15 minute long funeral scene is three times LONGER than the Batman versus Superman fight itself.
              2. Jesse Eisenbergs Lex was WAY too over the top. Hes really goofy and lauaghably bad.
              3. The lame introduction of the other Justice League characters. Not only was it lame but they had absolutely nothing to do with the story at all.
              4. The sound design in this movie was awful. Its either empty space or bad video game noises.
              5. Incoherent dream sequences punctuated by dream sequences inside of dream sequences.
              6. Far too many ideas jammed in to a single film. Even good ideas get lost in wave after wave of nonsense. Squishing every idea together results in a mangled mess.
              7. The brief fight between Supes and Batman was simply just the trailer shots and them screaming at each other for two minutes.
              8. Wonder Woman was wasted and jammed in to the movie completely underdeveloped. As a character in THIS movie (not a future movie) she has no depth or foundation.
              9. Cartoon Doomsaday complete with made up powers and laser eyes. Laser eyes do not make characters better. Just ask Deadpool.
              10. The logic in this movie is pure Snyder, dimwit logic. Plot holes, asinine character decisions and ridiculous character motivations are everywhere.
                All that is what makes this movie jumbled and ridiculous and certainly poorly conceived.
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                death-lord — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 08:36 PM)

                outside of the poor character work this as well

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                  JediJones — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 08:12 AM)

                  Yet MCU can introduce characters in tiny cameos or in supporting roles (like Widow in IM2) and this is all fine and dandy.
                  News flash, the word "cameo" exists for a reason. Not every character in a movie is the main character.
                  TONS of comic characters are introduced in tiny cameos in one issue before getting a full appearance later on. And often their backstory is only filled in much later. See comic first appearances of Wolverine, Deadpool, etc. Terrio went to school on comic books to write this and captured the spirit and style of comic book writing perfectly.
                  "Pretentious" is a three-syllable word for any thought too big for little minds.

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                    terry_hurley — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 08:34 AM)

                    Black Widow did not stop the build up to the climax of the film, did she? Dear dear me

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                      DudeRanch54 — 9 years ago(August 31, 2016 03:45 PM)

                      You just answered your own question
                      Cameos aren't the problem. It's how they are implemented

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                        Ratchapakinai — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 12:42 AM)

                        It came out at the wrong time. Modern audiences are whiny little bitches.

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                          Conan-1982 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 01:09 AM)

                          Pretty much the same : I wanted a simple and exciting "Batman VS Superman" movie and I got a boring, pointlessly complicated and pretentious "The Godfather part 3 with superheroes, giant monsters and explosions" instead.

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                              xXenomorphx — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 09:00 AM)

                              Even movies with that are dark, emotion, and complicated can be fun. Even though BvS failed to be dark, it still could've been entertaining with fun in it. But it tries to be so dark and epic its just plain boring to watch.

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                                tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 05:31 AM)

                                They were so obsessed with not doing what Marvel/Disney did so they wouldn't be accused of copying them that they forgot to make a good movie.

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                                  WaffleTaff — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 05:56 AM)

                                  1. Trying too hard to connect all of the characters together in a small amount of time.
                                  2. The editing was weird.
                                  3. Batfleck felt stiff and the voice was just too much, cringeworthy at times.
                                  4. Luthor.
                                    Things I did like was the way Superman died, it was kind of heroic even though Doomsday was pretty much squeezed in just so Superman could die. I liked the Batman backstory, even though they went back and fourth in time, which should have worked but didn't. Wonder Woman was a fun addition, I didn't feel like she was squeezed in, that was the only supporting character that didn't feel rushed in.
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                                    JediJones — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 08:08 AM)

                                    Doomsday was squeezed into the comic book just so Superman could die too. It wasn't like Luthor or Brainiac finally killing Superman. He was invented for no other reason but to kill Superman in one issue. At least the movie gave his death more motivation by being a Luthor plot rather than just a random monster that popped up.
                                    "Pretentious" is a three-syllable word for any thought too big for little minds.

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                                      tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 08:12 AM)

                                      You never read the Death of Superman event, did you?

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                                        terry_hurley — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 08:37 AM)

                                        Doomsday was not "squeezed" in though, was he? Not in the comic book. He was a prominent character. He was the whole story, not just some dumb after thought. God, you really are blinkered in your hatred of all things MCU, and your devotion to DCEU. It makes you come over as ludicrous

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                                          tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 08:40 AM)

                                          It also was not one issue.

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