Painfully obvious in the first 10m what's going on *SPOILERS*
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tannisrootmilkshake — 10 years ago(November 05, 2015 01:15 AM)
Why are you assuming that we weren't supposed to figure it out until the end? I was a little perplexed at first by it but after reflecting i think it was completely intentional, i don't think they were necessarily trying to deceive us. I think it's more intelligent than that.
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bowery_boy — 10 years ago(November 18, 2015 09:04 AM)
Anyone who has read / seen "The Other" would carch on.
Exactly. In fact, when I saw the trailer my first thought was this looks like it may be a redux of
The Other
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Then, when I saw the movie I kept trying not to look for the clues that Lucas was dead but they're all there. -
MarshallStax — 10 years ago(November 19, 2015 09:13 AM)
Funny, I had no idea. And I'm the guy who got punched hard in the arm when I saw "The Sixth Sense" on opening night and turned to my wife about an hour in and whispered, "Bruce Willis is a ghost."
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Geeky Randy — 10 years ago(November 20, 2015 07:07 AM)
Do you get a prize?
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http://geeksteronmovies.blogspot.com/p/the-geekster-guide.html
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ZaZeus — 9 years ago(October 15, 2016 02:52 PM)
You caught early on that Elias was going to torture his mother and burn her alive due to his ongoing delusion about his dead brother? I sure didn't.
Actually part way through the film I also deduced that he was going to end up killing the mother. It just made sense. Lukas was obviously not alive anymore; the boy was delusional and the mother afraid of him. It's a horror movie, so that's the obvious next step. -
rocko90 — 10 years ago(January 01, 2016 08:02 PM)
Yeah. I knew as soon as she was ignoring him it was that generic twist yet again. I thought that it was going to be a different twist given how obvious it was like we thought Lukas was actually alive but was neglected sort of thing.
The movie was meh overall.
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lavashop — 10 years ago(January 04, 2016 06:09 AM)
The horror is not in the revelation that there is no more Lukas.
The horror of the film is to be subjected to torture under someone so close to you.
To be so helpless in helping Elias, who is completely gone over the edge.
Elias brought his world to us and for a while, even the viewers believed it thoroughly.
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DarthSil — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 09:38 AM)
I didn't catch the twist either. The film managed to get me so wrapped up in the other aspect of the story, I barely noticed the obvious.
Good movie.
"A little Consideration, a little Thought for Others, makes all the difference."
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TwoFourSixOOne — 9 years ago(July 06, 2016 07:19 PM)
I figured it out during the name game but it didn't make me enjoy the movie less. After figuring it out, I viewed the movie as Mama slowly losing her sanity dealing with the trauma of the accident and dealing with Elias' delusions. The only thing I didn't understand is how the mom didn't get Elias psychiatric help.
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jonvena — 9 years ago(July 08, 2016 05:21 PM)
I didn't get why she would let both boys alone while spending a few days on a surgery and recovering from it. Even if only for 24 hours. Would anybody responsible mother let her children, 9 year olds, alone in an out-of-the-way countryside house with no one to babysit or look after them?
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ashingtray — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 11:24 AM)
This movie was never about the twist that the other boy is dead.
The Director did made it obvious at the first place only the brother could see the brother and not anyone else. It was obvious in most shots, so it's obvious the Director wasn't hiding it.
The power of the movie OR if you call it the Twist is that the dead brother appears to be a real Ghost, and not his imagination, and it is reveal at the final act dialogue that the mom was playing along at first to imagine the dead brother was still there, and that got the alive brother confused, and thus he was convinced that the mother was fake, who just had a plastic surgery, who you can tell from the plot reveal that she might have done it due to her insecurity after the divorce and as a not-so-famous tv personality. The "accident" they have been referring at the scene where the mom was talking with the police was indicating the death of the other son.
This is one of those rare movies where I hated watching it at first, because I thought the same, why was it so obvious that the brother is not real, and I surely thought that the rest of the movie was boring because I already knew the twist.
But then i changed my mind at the end, when the movie reveal that Ghost are real, with the wide shot of the mom's spirit walking out from the house, thus the dead brother was real as a "ghost" and not an imagination of the alive brother.
I thought this was unique and brilliant, a movie where I thought I hate, but then changed my mind at the very end, and thought it was a brilliant film. Very rare such feeling I have for a film, thus I think this film is pretty innovative and unique on it's own. Definitely worth more than 6.7 stars! I give it an 8 atleast! -
Giraffe_Monster — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 11:57 AM)
I don't think Lukas was a "real" ghost
When they're fighting, they bose get a nosebleed.
They shower at the same time, and they're also both on the trampoline.
It's all in Elias' imagination, he's not actually there. It's just Elias' messed up psyche.
Fine, fine, I'll leave! But first I'm going to bother these peanuts! Hmm? Yes? Hmm? HMM? -
ashingtray — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 01:33 PM)
then how do you explain the last scene where the "ghost" of the mom appears and then reunite with the 2 children?
there is no point of the Director to reveal "ghost" at the end of the movie if his intention wasn't to reveal the 'real' twist, that ghost exist in the world of his movie.
he purposely made it obvious for everyone to know that the boy is already dead at the beginning of the movie.
the reason why i like this film so much is because like most everyone here, i thought i was clever enough to spot that the boy was already dead and it was all the other's boy imagination. but dialogue at the last act of the movie reveal that the mom at first play along with the alive brother, asthough the dead brother is still there, which messes up the alive brother's logical sense when the mom no longer wants that, which made the alive brother paranoid of the mom. I don't even think the dead brother knows he is dead, because dialogue reveals that he is also sad that the mom refuses to talk to him. This is a very interesting setup that Director has made to the film.
Just because the Ghost bleed doesn't make it an imagination. If imagination can be physical "nosebleed" why not ghost? Is imagination more physical than Ghost?