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Just a little strange. I wonder why they don't have space Scientologists in this show?

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    mjence — 10 years ago(March 22, 2016 12:56 PM)

    This is a thoughtful response, I'll just add that the Mormon objectives in The Expanse mainly seem to be a pretty clever reflection of the Mormon concept of exodusthat idea that occasionally God leads his chosen people to a "promised land" in order to facilitate the growth of his chosen people and the subsequent spread of the gospel from the chosen people to all of his children. It's reflected in the Bible with the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt, in the Book of Mormon with several groups of people traveling from the old world to the new world, and in modern Mormon history with the migration to the American west. I'm still working my way through the books, but give the authors a lot of credit for apparently incorporating this idea so well into their portrayal of Mormons as a group.
    P.S. Mormons aren't required to keep reserve food on hand, but are encouraged to plan ahead for unanticipated hardshipsgenerally a "year's supply" is the ideal. It's part of the concept of "provident living" that most Mormons aspire to, with the encouragement of the church. See: https://providentliving.lds.org/?lang=eng
    Source: I am a lifelong Mormon.

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      sticksstoneswwiv — 10 years ago(December 31, 2015 04:17 AM)

      Scientologists
      2 reasons

      1. if they mention the SS Xenu or whatever, they probably have to pay royalties.
      2. no way it will be a thing in a few hundred years
        As for Mormons, consider the whole idea of spreading the gospel etc that is the idea of the ship to continue their mission. Plus it I guess keeps them separate from us bad normal sinners. Missionaries once traveled to Africa, the Pacific Islands, South America, Asia etc, after Earth is done, the belt, the moon and Mars another planet is the only place left to go.
        It's a moderately common trope - arc ships with missionaries.
        But South Park did it best with their Starvin' Marvin in Space episode.
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        gcronau — 10 years ago(January 01, 2016 03:53 AM)

        Say what you want about them, at least the LDS(Mormons) are about religion.
        Scientology, isn't a religion, no matter how much they thump their chest about it. It's a scam. It's a self-help group that got way out of control. I give them another 20 years.

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          abomination21 — 10 years ago(January 05, 2016 10:21 PM)

          Well if you have read the book, what happens to the Nauvoo is kind of ironic. It's not funny when you think about how those Mormons must have felt as to what happen yet it kind of is.
          And it's not strange at all they are the also the religion that believes in planets of beings etc. etc. and going there. Plenty of sci-fi have exclusively religious colonies it what they likely do if they can get enough money for an interstellar ship, and the Mormons have a lot of money.

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            Dejay — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 07:52 PM)

            Well I only read the first book, but I still kind of hope they can, uhm, recover the Nauvoo after it's "unscheduled test flight" haha. Would be such a shame even if it's Mormons.
            Wait I take that back. It's better if humans sort out there crazy problems before spreading their beep all over other star systems.
            I think it's definitely a dig at religion from the author. Some things you'll just not get out of people. It would be such a shame if the first interstellar colony would be by religious governed people that follow the teachings of a scam artist.

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              Aikoman — 10 years ago(January 06, 2016 04:46 PM)

              It's because their ultimate goal is to find planet Kolob. That's where Jesus and Donny Osmond live. Marie went to Mormon hell.
              http://www.top10craziestmormonbeliefs.com/a/93

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                Dejay — 10 years ago(February 03, 2016 09:14 AM)

                Yeah they even talk about it in the show: "What if you get there and there is nothing?" "Well I guess we'll just keep on searching" hahaha. Crazy folks.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob

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                  mjence — 10 years ago(March 22, 2016 12:41 PM)

                  I appreciate that this sounds funny, but in truth Mormons aren't looking for the planet Kolob. There is only one reference to Kolob in Mormon scripture, where the prophet Abraham sees in a vision of the heavens it being the place "nearest to God," and Mormons think of "finding Kolob" really only in the figurative sense of seeking to become closer to God spiritually in this life, and ultimately wanting to live in God's physical presence again in the life to come.
                  Source: Am lifelong Mormon.

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                    LeParas-1 — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 03:00 PM)

                    What's with the space Mormons?
                    They are a pain in the a.., like in real life too.

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                      spasticfreakshow — 9 years ago(February 08, 2017 09:45 PM)

                      what's wrong with Mormons? I'm a Jewish Israeli and most Jerusalemites I know love 'em! it's kinda cool that it's them planning this exodus, like the 6 months of food that's recommended, or whatever.
                      and unless i miss my guess, they're about to prove extremely useful to all of humanity, within this series.

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                        The Shrike — 9 years ago(August 26, 2016 06:50 PM)

                        All I know is they're going to be pissed.

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                          runit73 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 06:29 AM)

                          Mormons, to me at least, are seen as pioneers in the 19th century due to the migration to and settlement of the Utah territory. I'm guessing they are intended to be space pioneers in this show.

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                            wtdk123 — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 12:44 AM)

                            Something the Mormons have will prove important as the series moves forward.
                            -"Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense." -Steve Landesberg

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                              disent — 9 years ago(February 08, 2017 05:57 AM)

                              Probably becasue Mormons will survive as a religion into the future where scientology obviously will not.

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