What is the Amos character sexuality?
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ahrenbej — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 05:15 PM)
Oh yeah, I forgot about the past abuse. In the first book, when they got to Tycho station, he went straight to the brothels for a couple of days, but yeah I guess they didn't say if he was with men or women. But yeah, in the last one he was with a female prostitute.
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TheFirstStormAndTheLast — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 08:15 PM)
Yeah he goes to the brothels often but it never says what he buys there and we never see from his perspective until recently. What raised my suspicions are in Cibola Burn when he's hanging out with that one female merc while they're on the alien planet and Holden says something to the merc about her and Amos spending a lot of time together and she responds with something like Holden must not know Amos very well if that's what he thinks is going on. You get some insight though from Amos in this book and he pretty much confirms that he has sex because that's what he thinks people are supposed to do and that it does offer him a kind of stress release. He seems pretty much to me like a person who has zero interest in being intimate with any one ever. He does seem pretty close to Peachs though.
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ahrenbej — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 07:10 AM)
That is why I LOVE him in the books. Such a complex character. He has done some horrible stuff in the past, but is truly a good soul. If I remember right, he's the one who pushed for them to help Prax find his daughter. Such a bada$$, yet he seems to give everyone a chance first before killing them.
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macktan894 — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 10:42 PM)
Did you read The Churn, which is essentially his backstory. Amoswhich is an identity he assumes from anotheris definitely a psychopath, but he can perform kind acts. He led a brutal life in Baltimore, a hired gun in training for a vicious criminal. I'll have to re-read that novella; it was really good. As I recall, and vaguely, he was sexually involved with an older woman, not his mother but a woman who took care of him most of his life. I don't recall his being gay in that book. But he's not sexually normal.
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Dejay — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 05:26 PM)
My thought was straight as well, because seriously, what gay man that is as fit and sexy as him has to pay for sex? He's not some fat, old or ugly dude. Would that change in the future? So brothel to me meant he was straight.
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Kris_AB — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 12:17 PM)
Don't forget that in the books, though, it doesn't describe Amos as handsome. He's the shortest dude on the crew and is either incredibly buff (tank-built) or sorta husky-fit (I think "short muscle-bear" would describe him best, although I can't remember whether or not he's supposed to be hairy). He has at least a bit of a belly. He's balding and seems to have little to no hair left. IMO, he's tied with Holden as the most attractive male character (apparent looks and personality combined) from the first few books. Bobbie beats 'em both out, though, if I'm including all genders.
Wes Chatham being cast as Amos seemed like a bit of a departure from the books, but he's built and has a buzzed head and has crazy-eyes, so close enough. Plus he's a good actor. I can't remember if Amos is supposed to be that young, but I pictured Amos as 40+ when I read them. In the show, he would appear to be about as old as Holden or maybe slightly older, with Alex definitely being the most senior crew member in terms of age.
Amazing character, though, yeah especially in the books.
Can I tell you something I know for a fact, though ? Even gay men who are perceived by the majority of the public to be smokin' hot will still hire sex workers for play and/or companionship. It's not just older or less attractive types hiring escorts and the like. Yes, stud-dudes could just go to a bar or use a hook-up/dating app or website to easily pair off, but some prefer to use sex workers sometimes because they're more likely to get exactly what they want out of the experience, they wouldn't have to deal with any flakes/no-shows or drama, and if pressed for time (as Holden and crew often were while docked at Tycho), then it cuts to the chase/is a more economical use of precious free time. -
Dejay — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 05:26 PM)
Don't forget that in the books, though, it doesn't describe Amos as handsome. He's the shortest dude on the crew and is either incredibly buff (tank-built) or sorta husky-fit (I think "short muscle-bear" would describe him nest, although I can't remember weather or not he's supposed to be hairy). He has at least a bit of a belly. He's balding and seems to have little to no hair left.
Haha your description go progressively worse and worse lol. I could have sworn I knew Wes Chatham from somehwere like Heroes, but he only played something in Hunger Games.
Speaking of appearances, I didn't pay too much attention to the descriptions in the book. I actually watched the show first, then after a few months read the first book. For Amos my image of him while reading was the actor from show, but really curiously I had a new image of Holden in my head. More like a blond and friendly looking nice boy.
Even gay men who are perceived by the majority of the public to be smokin' hot will still hire sex workers for play and/or companionship.
Interesting. Well as a hetero I would call you guys truly lazy, but I know how much time and energy you spend on your haircuts -
Kris_AB — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 11:13 PM)
His IMDb says he was in the military drama
The Unit
as well. Always meant to check that one out for Dennis Haysbert and Scott Foley, but never got around to it.
Hah, my description of book-Amos as a buff balding grizzly bear with possibly a big thick muscle-gut being regarded as "worse and worse" is kinda funny only because I know myself and other dudes (and probably a decent amount of women, if a minority perhaps) are into those types. Amos has the psychopath problem, but hey, as long as he's on YOUR side, right ?
The show effected how I saw the characters as well (I read Leviathan Wakes while the casting was being announced for the leads), but some visuals changed in my head while reading (and Avasarala changed once I got to Book 2, because in the books she is white-haired, older, and a tiny woman and that's all the more hilarious and awesome and contrasting with how much power she wields). Amos is unmistakably more rough-around-the-edges and not model-pretty like Wes Chatham, though. But it's cool I'm glad they cast the best actors for the jobs rather than being slavishly devoted to the book descriptions (Naomi's still the biggest departure).
LOL @ the hair comment (glad you added the winking smiley to denote teasing I'm a low maintenance kinda guy who spends zero time on his hair beyond just washing/shampooing it in the showerit's usually shaggy and unkept and suits me just fine, heh. It's neither here nor there, but I'm bi and not into using much product or overly prepping before leaving the house. Typical guy's guy, not a metrosexual). You're right that many guys like things easy, but I'd say more than that, many of them like variety. Thrill of the chase/effort of the hunt for satisfying dates or hook-up material one week (or month, or however often) and whatever's around (or escorts, for the minority that use them) the next. -
Dejay — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 12:09 AM)
Oh I've never seen him as a psychopath or sociopath. He has empathy and emotions. He definitely has other problems and is prone to violence and seems to have no problem with brutality.
But he's found his "queen" in Naomi and is fully content and happy to serve her to keep himself safe, from himself. I think he's a typical archetype. A warrior or samurai. I figure not too multi dimensional like the other characters, but it works well enough.
Yeah starting with book 2 now and Avasarala who doesn't even appear in book 1 is definitely well cast for the role.
The only thing I really dislike on the show is that they changed the characters to be less professional and more churlish and confrontational. Lots of waving guns around and masculine shoving. Which I hope they don't dial up in the next season because it's the typical cheap "teenage drama" fluff networks pump into their shows. Captain Holden in the book is really different. -
Kris_AB — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 12:24 AM)
Agreed some of the squabbling among the crew of the Rocinante in the show felt manufactured and forced. I loved how they all gelled and felt like a tight knit group pretty quickly in the books (perhaps that it being delayed in the show only so that it feels EARNED once they do get it together in Season 2).
I love Holden in the books, whereas I'm finding him to be the most difficult character to get into in the show because now I can't hear his thoughts. His perspective chapters really humanized him (he may be a handsome, confident ladies' man, but he's also given to insecurities and adorably dorkish awkwardness at times the same way most guys are). I do consider what I know of him from the books and what I remember him thinking during certain moments when watching scenes in the show that line up with the books, so viewing the show is really enhanced by having some book knowledge (and I'm more forgiving of show-Holden as a result). -
nomen_meltdown — 9 years ago(February 11, 2017 02:06 AM)
I've read about studies on why people hire sex-workers and it's inaccurate to assume that only unattractive people with no 'free' options do so. Even casual hookups require finding someone you're into, who's into you, and figuring out if they'll go for a non-commitmental thing, and then hoping that they're being truthful even if they say they are. According to the people interviewed, the main appeal of prostitutes was that there was no need for awkward courtship, no uncertainty or ambiguity, no having to figure out what the 'relationship' would be afterwards with a professional it was clear what the parameters of the encounter were, and one could just get right to it and move on afterwards. Plus, when they were paying for it, the encounter could cater specifically to what they wanted out of it.
Given that, sex-workers would have the same appeal to hot people as to homely ones.
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Dejay — 9 years ago(February 11, 2017 03:01 AM)
Thanks, yeah I'm beginning to get that point from the other comments as well. I've never really through about it that way, even though it makes perfect sense. I don't think a prostitute could really give me what I want since I would know it's fake. But of course it makes sense if it's more about the "mechanical" part.