Japanese Forest, Japanese Spirits… and a White Girl?
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Ultraviolenxe — 10 years ago(January 07, 2016 05:07 PM)
First of all, Japanese films only casting Asians in not the same as what Hollywood does. Whire people are the minority in terms of the world, but make up the majority when it comes to representation in the media and in films. So no there's no issue with Japanese studios not casting white people, as white people are already highly represented in film.
European cinema also lacks diversity because, newsflash, there's racism in Europe as well. But Hollywood makes most of the movies that we see in theaters so that's why I'm talking about Hollywood. I think it's kind of ridiculous that this movie is based on Japan, Japanese spirits, Japanese culture, but the cast is white. To me that's just silly. There's plenty of Asian actors they could have hired but instead they cast white people because it's more marketable, and yes that is indeed whitewashing, which is racist. -
Archnenna — 10 years ago(January 07, 2016 06:05 PM)
You know what? Racism goes both ways. You can't blame one group of people and say the other one is fine for doing the same thing, only with a different race. I for one don't think it's racist. Racism is when you hate another race. I don't see any hate here. Seriously, everything is considered racism these days.
Also, it's their movie. They can cast who they want. -
Ultraviolenxe — 10 years ago(January 08, 2016 08:03 PM)
Well considering white people don't suffer from systematic racism, no it does not go both ways. And racism isn't just as simple as "hating another race". There's much more to it, that I'm not going to waste my time going into because I already know you aren't going to understand and itll go one ear and out the other. White people are the most highly represented race in film. They are not oppressed in the entertainment industry and neither in life. So no, a Japanese film studio not casting white people isn't racist.
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Archnenna — 10 years ago(January 09, 2016 12:15 PM)
Yes, it does go both ways. Are you telling me that, for example, a black person's racism hurts less than a white person's racism? That's ridiculous.
Make your own movie and cast who you want. It's their movie, and they have every right to cast the actors they want. Just like I have every right to represent whoever I want when I'm writing my books, filmmakers are allowed to create characters to their liking. As long as no one is being bashed, it's fine.
And regarding your comment about European cinema, would you care to elaborate what country you're talking about? You do know Europe is not a country, right? Some of the countries that are mostly white, which would explain the lack of minorities in movies. -
mharvey-3-910706 — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 12:40 PM)
A black person's racism (in the United States) does hurt less. White people, with very few exceptions,control the government, law enforcement, and business.
Therefore, white people have the ability to covertly harm blacks, whereas the reverse is unlikely. I'm not talking about violence, but the less obvious harm of a biased legal system and biased hiring. You say racial discrimination is illegal. Yes it is. Mr. Smith was not hired because he was black. The employer preferred Mr. Jones, a white person. Prove that it was discrimination, if you can.
As for European films, you really haven't seen many, if you believe they are "all white." -
Archnenna — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 01:11 PM)
If you hurt someone based on their race (no matter if they're white, black, Asian, Middle Eastern, etc.), that person is still going to be in pain. Let's say person A is white and someone vandalizes their house because they hate white people. Now let's say person B is black and someone vandalizes their house because they hate black people. Both of those people have had their property vandalized. You can't claim that person A was hurt less when both have been harmed in an equal way.
How would you know if Mr. Smith was not hired for his race? Maybe Mr. Jones was simply more qualified. Not everything is race-related, yet people from the USA always try to make it so.
I would like a quote of where I said "all white". I said that most countries are majorly white, which is true. I'm living in one of those countries. I'm neighbors with some of those countries. They are majorly white. Not all. Some. Quote or it didn't happen. -
mharvey-3-910706 — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 08:05 AM)
"How would you know if Mr. Smith was not hired for his race? Maybe Mr. Jones was simply more qualified."
That was exactly my point. If he was not hired, specifically because of race, he would never know, and certainly couldn't prove it. However, many people are not hired only because of their race. Since you don't live in the USA, perhaps you aren't aware of the level of racism in our society.
"I said that most countries are majorly [sic] white, which is true."
Perhaps you forgot Asia, Africa, South America and Central America. I believe you are mistaken. -
Archnenna — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 08:19 AM)
It could be.
I'm sick of people online (mostly on Tumblr) talking about race relations as though they're universal, while actually talking about how they work in the USA. They never even seem to consider other countries.
"Perhaps you forgot Asia, Africa, South America and Central America. I believe you are mistaken."
I was talking about European countries (because the person before me said that European media is racist because of lack of diversity, so I pointed out that most countries in Europe are white-majority, hence the reason for mostly white movie casts), not those on other continents. I can't speak for other continents, but I can speak for Europe, or at least my and neighboring countries. -
hellojoe87 — 10 years ago(January 11, 2016 07:07 PM)
Just because you learn a bunch of false definitions in a women's studies class or on tumblr doesn't make it true. Casting a white person in a movie set in Japan is absolutely 100% not racist. If you want to be offended go ahead but : Full Definition of racism
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: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
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: racial prejudice or discrimination
Your bs definition is not the real definition, so stop treating it as such. And please, if you are offended by everything, go away. -
Thorshairspray — 9 years ago(April 07, 2016 11:20 AM)
They are hihgly represented in Western Cinema you tit. You won't find many in Indian or Far Eastern cinema.
Lets think why? Hmmmm.no white in Japanese filmsnot many white actors in Japan.
No Japanese in American films?.not many Japanese actors? No Whitey is racist. -
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udidwht — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 11:11 PM)
Your giving em to much credit. Racism is NOT by very definition the hating of a race. It goes much deeper than that. If a white person grows up in a predominately black neighborhood he/she is quite likely to grow up hating those in the hood. Is it because of the color of their skin? No
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KoRnRuLz — 10 years ago(January 12, 2016 02:51 AM)
I think you will find that America and Europe cast more Caucasians because they are the majority race in those areas simple really.
Just like Japan casts more Japanese actors in there films, because they are the majority race there and the majority of people watching their film will be Japanese.
If this film was going to be aimed at say a Japanese audience, then the film makers would have cast roles to suit that, but not it was made for an American movie going audience, the majority of whom are Caucasian.
It has been proven that people like to see or read about Characters based from their own ethnicity or gender or both because they can then identify more with that person. Therefore they will be more willing to spend their money on a story that involves a character more like them.
And before you start on, yes people do make exceptions of course, and no it's not racism, everyone has it, it is subconscious.
I'm not saying there is no racism in Hollywood, but they are doing better than many other places, and it is not the giant conspiracy theory people on here are making out to be. -
Theshornwonder — 10 years ago(January 18, 2016 11:48 AM)
White people make up the majority in the United States and Europe. If you decide to criticize a national film industry because it doesn't represent the population of "the world" then you're pretty silly.
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janisvstr — 10 years ago(March 23, 2016 07:12 PM)
White people make up the majority when it comes to representation in the media and films -
in the West, FTFY.
And it's only normal, since we
are
the majority here.
You think European cinema lacks diversity because there's racism in Europe, but you find it silly that a movie based in Japan doesn't have a Japanese lead? Your racist double standards are
sickening
!
Boy, are you retarded or what
Not a native anglo. -
ipoisonthenachos-57368 — 10 years ago(January 08, 2016 05:40 PM)
I'm going to disagree. Just because this movie was set in Japan does not mean the lead has to be Asian. Would it nice? Absolutelybut not necessary. There are many instances where I would agree with you the Chun Li movie was one, the remake of Death Note, etc. But in this case - no. I think you are just looking to be offended.