Can someone please explain the ending? Didn't quite understand it
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Fanamir — 10 years ago(December 05, 2015 07:22 AM)
There's evidence like that to support both theories, though. For instance, from the house you can see the rest of the neighborhood, but only their house is in the snow globe.
I don't think Krampus uses the snowglobes to teleport. He might use them to watch people to determine if they're "naughty or nice." -
shane1979 — 10 years ago(December 06, 2015 12:12 AM)
One thing people keep missing is after he wakes up there is an other worldly glow about everything Rematch the ending you'll see it I go with the purgatory/hell theory
Habataitara modorenai to itte
Mezashi-ta no wa aoi aoi ano sora -
marauteatime — 10 years ago(December 06, 2015 12:25 AM)
You mean a bright white glow? Haven't you ever seen snow or seen snow during the day time? Not really otherworldly though it could kinda look that way on camera. I know I once took a selfie and I had an otherworldly glow around me and bright white glow behind me.
Meaning, that there is no otherworldly glow. Max wakes up, looks outside, goes downstairs, light is coming from the windows, and nothing otherworldly about it. -
svalinanikola — 10 years ago(December 06, 2015 12:29 AM)
No, no, he's not talking about the snow.
I noticed it as well, he talks about the subtle filter through the whole scene, even inside of the house.
Remember how some shows tend to portray flashbacks with some weird filter which makes things kind of blurry or fuzzy? The colors seem out of focus, everything seems brighter than usual etc. That's the best way I can explain it. -
marauteatime — 10 years ago(December 06, 2015 12:51 AM)
You forget the big things though. Clues through interviews, the movie and the official prequel comic.
Interviews
In his newest feature, Krampus, Dougherty, along with his co-writers Todd Casey and Zach Shields, explore the mythology of the dark companion of Saint Nicholas with a mischievous sense of humor, and surprisingly, a ton of heart.
As Dougherty points out, to him, Christmas movies exist in their own little snow globe, wherein a clashing family, no matter how sick of each other, always manages to overcome their differences and live happily ever after. When it came to their interpretation, however, the family members in their screenplay arent so lucky. What if the familys issues escalated, and then they sort of allow Krampus to seep into their reality? So, it really started as a Christmas family dramedy that gets invaded by a horror movie, or a dark fairy tale.
I knew there was going to be a bit of an uproar, but you know, I love Christmas, too. Its a pro-Christmas film, but in order to get that point across, it sort of takes you through a waking nightmare says Dougherty
One of my biggest inspirations was A Christmas Carol, which is a ghost story, and a really scary nightmare if you think about it. It takes you through this nightmare in order to just reaffirm the true meaning of the holiday, and we really wanted to do something similar.
Same thing with Its a Wonderful Life. I mean, that guy is suicidal, about to jump off a bridge, and in comes this supernatural entity that says, Well, reconsider that idea, because Im going to take you through a version of the universe where you dont exist, and its going to be a nightmare, and thats what gets him to cherish life again. So, theres a long history of using Christmas stories to scare people straight.
Frightful as it may be to younger patrons, Krampus purpose doesnt only lie in scaring kids into behaving. One motif that is mentioned often in the film is the idea of sacrifice. Its easy to get distracted by the horror aspect of the feature, but Dougherty wants to make it clear that his movie is as much about spreading Christmas cheer as it is about terrifying small children.
Dougherty is going with, that Krampus is judge, jury and executioner but also the shadow of Santa.
Just dont call him evil, the director says. Hes more complex and nuanced than that.
Hes not Freddy (A Nightmare on Elm Street) or Jason (Friday the 13th) or Leatherface (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre), this unstoppable monster that kicks down your door and rampages and grabs you, he says. If you study the myth, theres something darkly playful about him. Hes having a good time doing what he does and he enjoys the cat-and-mouse aspect of it.
The comic
Has a Christmas Carol feel in it.
It shows that the one who summons Krampus gets the bell.
We clearly see what happens to those that are beyond help.
Everyone Krampus and his minions encounter (Like the summoners and some side characters) learns a lesson and has turned for the better.
We see that those who were killed, but also learned their lesson wake up Christmas morning and are shown to truly have changed. Even going around the town/city.
The Movie
Again, Christmas Carol shows up, this time in form of a movie.
The family clearly changes for the better throughout the movie.
Babies are innocent, so Krampus would not have just up and put it into purgatory.
Max clearly sees the neighborhood out his window and lights on houses, yet when the camera zooms out and shows a snowglobe, you see no other houses but that one house. No vehicles, no nothing other than the house. The complete opposite Max sees out his window.
The Krampus bell is left to remind them of the horrific events that happened, but also to remind them of a time that their family was closest and to keep that up.
Putting all this stuff together, which ties beautifully together by the way, you get a better understanding of the ending.
No purgatory, no ironic punishment. They died, they learned their lesson, they were given a second chance along with a reminder that Krampus truly did visit them. -
marauteatime — 10 years ago(December 08, 2015 08:11 PM)
Animals have no souls and babies are pure of heart. So neither would be trapped in a snowglobe purgatory. This universe has a Santa and if Krampus kept the baby's soul, Santa would confront Krampus, or, Krampus would just never be able to have it. And since animals have no soul, the dog wouldn't show up in the snowglobe either if it was a prison.
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Agent_Smoulder — 10 years ago(December 09, 2015 03:42 PM)
http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/graphics/dogs.jpg
Trust no one. -
DisturbedPixie — 10 years ago(February 29, 2016 11:09 AM)
How did you decide babies can't go to purgatory? Babies are born with "original sin."
"Augustine contended that unbaptized children who die are condemned to hell, though they do not suffer all its pains because they are not guilty of personal sin.
Later theologians, in the Middle Ages, posited the existence of limbo as a way to soften the harshness of St. Augustines position. Unlike the state of quasi-hell posited by St. Augustine, these theologians defined limbo as a quasi-heaven, a place or state of where unbaptized persons enjoy a natural state of happiness yet remain excluded from the Beatific Vision" - http://www.aboutcatholics.com/beliefs/do-unbaptized-babies-go-to-limbo/
So if this is the mythology used in this Christmas story, than that baby is in the snow globe purgatory/limbo doomed to spend eternity on Christmas morning with this family. His sin was inherited, and that earns him this place in limbo.
Christians don't believe dogs have souls, so who cares about the dog? It's property just like the coffee table in the house.
All christian themed stories have this disturbing idea of hell and eternal punishment. No need to pretend this christian god or Santa counterpart would never let eternal punishment happen. There are no second chances for the eternally damned. This baby was meant to be punished, thus carrying out god's plan his mysteriously evil plan. -
Dsuarezmlc12 — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 01:25 PM)
wait, so I can take my "property"(the dog) to the afterlife with me? Party at my house in the afterlife then.
The logical interpretation would be they learned their lesson/ extra chance, especially after reading the comments on here -
toph1980 — 10 years ago(March 01, 2016 07:44 PM)
after i left the cinema i thought more about it,
and now i think your theory B is the correct one.
there is one very important scene, which most people oversee.
we see the house and the camera is zooming out.
during this zooming the picture got blurred,
even for a quite long time.
its the moment the camera breaks through the glass wall of the snowglobe,
which means, both or all 3 things are real (the house, the globe and the room outside of the globe),
that all 3 things are on the same level/layer
and it proves that the snowglobe is not just Krampus' TV.
There is something else important going on that everybody has yet to mention: The narration during this last scene. The voiceover explicitly says "Krampus came not to reward, but to punish" or something along those lines, as the camera zooms out.
I'm going with B as well. What you see is what you get - family trapped in a snowglobe in Krampus' workshop/basement, punished, forever trapped in limbo whatever.
A picture with a smile - and perhaps, a tear.
It's a dog.
