I'm not gonna lie, I think the lady whose husband got shot was a complete liar.and seemed to like to start cr@p, getting
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Wednesday06 — 9 years ago(May 19, 2016 03:19 PM)
I actually got the opposite impression. Not that both women weren't lying, but that the reason the whole situation escalated was because of Paula and Neal.
I don't doubt for one minute that Todd and Jenny weren't fighting out in the front yard. They struck me as a couple who would do that. However, I think it was wrong for Paula to forbid her son to be friends with Ryan. She could've just allowed them to hang out at her house, if she was truly afraid Todd might fly of the handle at Jake. Poor kid probably could've used the escape. Then there was the deer incident. It was crazy of Neal to blame his Lyme disease on the neighbors, even if they were inadvertently causing the deer to wander through other yards. Where there are animals, there are ticks. It's not like you can tell a wild animal where it can and can't go, or what it can and can't eat. It was unfortunate, but the other couple were not to blame. Neither were they to blame for Neal getting fired from his job. These people, Neal and Paula, were not very big on taking responsibility for their actions or emotions.
Then there were the mutilated animals. I fully believe the neighbors' kids were responsible for that. Animals don't just die en masse in one person's yard like that. Just like with the restaurant scene, there HAD to be witnesses to this stuff actually happening. Neighbors had to see the dead animals; patrons had to see the confrontation at the restaurant. However, like I said, I have NO DOUBT that the events were exaggerated by Jenny. And I fully believe both women (and the daughter) were lying in their versions of the story. I mean, Neal lied to the police about his gun. And please, OF COURSE his wife knew he had one. Her excuse was that he doesn't leave it lying out, so she forgot he had one. Really? Seems like being asked if there was a gun in the house MIGHT jog her memory. Then she lied again when asked where her son was when the police came to arrest him. If he had done nothing wrong, why hide?
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slidell333 — 9 years ago(May 20, 2016 06:16 AM)
For sure, both sides are lying (they always are)I always remember what my mom told me years ago "there are two sides two every story and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle."
So. I'm not saying the one family didn't do anything wrong, In my gut I just feel she is the biggest BS'er. I can read them a mile away, plus the things she said she sure acted like she was just SO scared she had to call the police.like they never did any similar behavior..yeah, right. I wish they could all take lie detector tests. I just got the feeling she liked it. You don't get your neighbor's kid arrested and expect everything to go back to normal. You may hope it will but trust me, it's notand she knew it.
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whosaysnightsareforsleep — 9 years ago(May 22, 2016 01:55 PM)
i agree with you. i'm sure both sides painted the events to cast themselves in a slightly better light than they were, but when came on this board i was shocked how many people thought jenny was the bigger liar. i mean, maybe she is and without proof we are all entitled to our opinions, but i definitely felt like paula and her daughter were stretching the truth to play the victims and justify neal's actions. as for diner witnesses, i would assume that before issuing an arrest warrant the police would have questioned them. it's pretty rare for an arrest to be immediate in a he said/she said. jenny may not have been as nice in that situation as she said, but i'm guessing the son really did lay his hands on todd.
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Wednesday06 — 9 years ago(May 19, 2016 07:43 PM)
Yes! It can cause all sorts of psychological changes, especially if the disease goes untreated for awhile. It's possible, judging by the severity of Neal's symptoms, that he could've even been infected long before he was actually diagnosed.
I hadn't considered his increasing paranoia and anger issues to be Lyme related, but they definitely could have been. Good point, rosemei. -
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MacRobin92 — 9 years ago(May 29, 2016 10:30 AM)
The man was obviously disturbed, but it seemed to me that the female neighbor loved to stir the pot. I'm sure they both antagonized that guy until he snapped he belongs in prison, but sometimes you just leave crazy people alone.
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slidell333 — 9 years ago(May 31, 2016 09:03 AM)
My sentiments, exactly. I'd also love to know the truth about the restaurant incident. Around here, you can basically make an allegation that someone threatened you and they'll take that person to jail. I doubt she was just sitting there with her husband and one or both of them didn't say something loudly, stare at them, or somethingand the whole thing was the kids fault. It just looks strange, you have this woman with this older, quite large husband who carries a firearm 24/7 and she calls the cops because a teenager supposedly threatened her and they're "scared for their lives." It just shows to me the mentality of these people, like it or not, they are your neighbors and you have to live close to them. They couldn't have possibly thought getting him would make things better. I don't know what transpired in that restaurant, but the real story is probably somewhere in the middle. I wish al, the people on the show had to take polygraph testsit would make it more interesting IMHO.