What people need to understand about the series
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ksperrye — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 09:31 PM)
Sam Esmail said that (not those exact words but but the same meaning) unequivocally in a number of interviews right after the Season 1 Episode 1 early "leak" online last year.
So, that's 100% correct and confirmed by Esmail - no need to wonder or argue about it.
It's one of the reasons I think the series is so incredibly good; it's meant to be a film so it's fundamentally cinematic and compelling. -
ShannonTriumphant — 9 years ago(September 28, 2016 01:07 PM)
That, along with the two posts above you (about Esmail's statement and the cinematic concept) explains it well. Too many people want things neatly wrapped up at the end of each episode, an old tradition, which is fine for police procedurals and simple mystery stories ("Murder, She Wrote" comes to mind).
But I don't want or
need
immediate answers. I want to solve the puzzle over time, or sometimes, never. To quote the character of Jim Williams in "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil", regarding the fact that he never x-rayed an antique painting to see the original work underneath, "Sometimes, I rather enjoy NOT knowing."
If you don't enjoy that, then I could see how a show like Mr. Robot would grate on you! No instant gratification. Could it be that too many viewers had their imaginations ruined by standardized testing in schools, to which they were given the answers to make their schools look good? Yet it does nothing to further analytical ability.
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trebor_trancheplanete — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 03:00 PM)
Too many people want things neatly wrapped up at the end of each episode
No, I'm not expecting answers at the end of every show, but I would like the story to actually move forward so that something actually happens near the end of the season. It's one thing to create mysteries on top of other mysteries, but it's another to artificially stretch a thin plot over several seasons just to milk a series.
I'm old enough to have seen the original 17 episodes of "the Prisoner" a show where you were never told the name of the main character! So I'm not expecting Mr Robot to explain everything in every episode and I can live with that happily, but it would of been nice if they at least resolved the issue of "is Tyrell real or imaginary" and "phase two of the plan" without having to make us wait until season 3.
The fear here is that as the show progresses, it stops being about intriguing things that you can understand and just moves into wackiness for the sake of being different. We had an episode of Alf and we had a scene where Angela is questioned by a child using an 80's computer with floppy discs while a fish tank empties and there is no rational explanation for this except that the writer/producer just wanted to do something whacky like the red room from Twin Peaks with it's backward talking midget.
It can either go both ways. Some will see this as brilliant while others will see this as silly. And the danger is that if they stretch this too much, it will become impossible to explain in a satisfactory way and the end of the series will be a huge letdown. I just hope they can course correct and drop the idea of stretching this to 5 years if they only have 3 years of material planned. -
NotASpeckOfCereal — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 07:11 PM)
No, I'm not expecting answers at the end of every show, but I would like the story to actually move forward so that something actually happens near the end of the season.
You really don't think things happened near the end of both seasons?
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redcoatmenace — 9 years ago(February 04, 2017 06:36 AM)
How are you gonna talk about it moving slow when Twin Peaks is taking 25 years to move their story along? Like damn, what happened to Agent Cooper? (I kid)
The whole point of that scene was for it to be weird to see how Angela would react.
My biggest issue with it moving slowly is the filler content. I understand plots that go nowhere this season are just setting up things further down the line, but i don't need to see Angela stare off into space for minutes at a time while nothing else is happening.
Tyrell was real, he shot Elliot. Mr. Robot told him that he was dead so he would stop asking and they could move the plot along. Phase two was the malware that would cause the UPS's to overload and take down the tower with all the physical copies of the records.
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Meldove — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 07:46 PM)
Yes. Shows like this never have a huge following because people are stupidly obsessed with instant gratification. It isn't till later that they receive some recognition and appreciation.
This is true, however the following Mr Robot does have appreciates the unique storytelling, beautiful and often unusual cinematography and we are watching a show with characters that are fallible and often times struggling with their own inner turmoil.
Season 2 was necessary to introduce fallout of 5/9 and of course to introduce new characters into the mix. There have been reactions to the character of Dom and with the hack being so major and the ramifications so big, of course they would have introduce the FBI element into the storytelling. Obviously, we know they in addition to Dom they at least 6000 agents working on the case of the fsociety, so it's not just about Dom being a brilliant "independent" agent (which would be ridiculous). I think Sam wanted to provided the audience at least one agent's perspective of the inner workings of the case.
We all want to know more about the Washington Township Plant and why it's so important to Whiterose, however revealing that at the end of season 2 wouldn't have been necessary. We got just enough information, Tyrell is still alive and what Stage 2 entails. I feel very satisfied and currently watching season 2 again and realizing it's even better than the first time around. -
sportswiz14 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 11:19 PM)
Every episode was great? You mean including the "Fly" episode that was almost universally hated? Go on and continue to spout nonsense. I loved Breaking Bad and love Mr. Robot. Every show is going to have their critics. With this show in particular, it definitely is all about the long haul.
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tbone280lr — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 12:42 AM)
Breaking Bad also didn't wrap up everything that precluded it at the end of each season, so what's your point about "defending this show with weak-ass arguments"? This show doesn't need defending. It's brilliant. And so was this past season. You didn't care for it? Fine. I'm not going to call you a dim-witted retard. But I'm betting you haven't quite made up your mind as you keep coming back to the message boards to attempt to refute people who are "defending" it.
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Sluggr-3 — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 09:51 AM)
Exactly, the final scene of Fly defined where BB was going. But as no one got shot, the haters hated it.
OYOH, when Hank was in the burnt out lab, I so wanted to see Walt's shoe drop and clonk him on the noggin.
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marius_em — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 04:40 AM)
Man, Fly was one of the best pieces of tv ever filmed, it was just tension building up, you could feel Walter's guilt trying to come out.
And so far, Mr. Robot does not qualify to be in the same league as Breaking Bad.
I get it is a long haul, and they're setting up pieces, but until we get the payload you really can't argue if this is a great show. Right now it's on the same track as Lost, awesome start, but beep conclusion. So what i'm saying is they'd better make the waiting worth it, or they'll go down in history as a beep show as Lost was.