Love this show but the Commodore 64 interrogation scene was laughable
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mannyk-19043 — 9 years ago(September 16, 2016 12:26 PM)
Jump the Shark? Just because of a scene involved Commodore 64 you have to be stupid to think because of that it jumped the shark.
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NotASpeckOfCereal — 9 years ago(September 16, 2016 12:31 PM)
I get that Whiterose is eccentric but I doubt that he would go to all that trouble and set up that entire situation just to meet a small fry pawn like Angela.
Then you totally missed the reason he needed to meet her, why he didn't kill her months ago, why he gave her this out. Not that Whiterose doesn't have yet further plans for Angela
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ShannonTriumphant — 9 years ago(December 09, 2016 07:41 AM)
I agree. This scene threw me at first; it was so odd. But I realised that Whiterose actually has a great sense of the theatrical, behind that cold exterior. You can tell, too, that BD Wong is having a blast with the role.
After watching this ep a few times, I realised that Angela is NOT an analog to Nabokov's or Kubrick's
Lolita
(that's Darlene - check out her user name), but to the mature, albeit twisted figure of Humbert Humbert, who loves Lolita butwell, read the book! Angela is the one who has memorised the passage about the key, right from the novel. She has the ear of Price and hopefully will use rather than BE used by him. She is the one Whiterose expects will be able to open doors, unlike Elliot and Darlene, who are hampered by abusive pasts and grief. Darlene is the Lolita analog.
As for Whiterose, I liken her to Nabokov's personification of Fate (he even names it), the controller of all human destiny. How else is she/he, a Chinese national, able to slip in and out of the U.S., setting up storefronts, houses and entire branches of a foreign army of hackers?
Naahhhthis scene isn't important at ALL!
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inexile — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 12:02 PM)
I realised that Angela is NOT an analog to Nabokov's or Kubrick's Lolita
"I think she just likes old guys."
She is the one Whiterose expects will be able to open doors, unlike Elliot and Darlene, who are hampered by abusive pasts and grief
Abusive? Huh?
Angela is not acting out of grief/revenge for her mother? Whiterose says the exactly that about her in that very episode.
How else is she/he, a Chinese national, able to slip in and out of the U.S., setting up storefronts, houses
This is not especially difficult. The West Coast real estate bubble is a direct consequence.
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ShannonTriumphant — 9 years ago(January 29, 2017 11:01 AM)
Angela may "like old guys" but if so, it makes sense, since her role model for adult males is her father, a kind and fairly gentle man. I doubt, however, that Price falls into the group of old guys for whom she MAY lust. He's far too repugnant.
This is pretty short for a real argument:
Abusive? Huh?
But I'll take a whack at it. Yes, abusive. Dad pushed Elliot out of a window and inflicted other injuries. Mom put out cigs on Darlene's arm and punches her (if we are to believe the car trip scene). We see flashbacks of her smacking Elliot, force-feeding him and calling him horrible names. That's abuse and where I live, you can be arrested and jailed for most of what they do. At the very least, you'd lose your kids. Lest anyone argue that these things didn't happen, I'd add that kids don't just hallucinate this stuff.
Angela is acting out of revenge, but I don't believe that she's hampered by it, as are Elliot and Darlene. Her main stumbling block is low self esteem. To wit: those ridiculous self-affirmation tapes! So 1970's.
This is not especially difficult. The West Coast real estate bubble is a direct consequence.
Are you really saying this is what Whiterose is about? Funny. So she's just the Chinese Donald Trump?
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danconia — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 10:02 PM)
Nice to know I'm not the only one who loves the White Rose character. That character steals the show whenever she is on-screen. And I definitely love the obsession with time. Time has always been an important theme in story-telling but I think this century we will see it even more obsessed over in literature and film / TV.